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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 128 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Of course Yahoo buried the lede:

While the searches may not be popular, they’re certainly profitable.

Clayton County records and federal documents show that drug agents find large amounts of cash on passengers at departing gates rather than drugs. Agents have seized millions of dollars, and while travelers aren’t arrested, their money is often administratively forfeited.

Like most civil forfeiture cases, people who have their money taken must prove in court that their money isn’t connected to drug trafficking or other illegal activity. Seizures like these don’t just happen at the Atlanta airport. They’ve taken place at airports across the country.

[–] anemoia_one@lemmynsfw.com 69 points 2 years ago (1 children)

must prove in court that their money isn’t connected to drug trafficking or other illegal activity

Ah yes, the cornerstone of US law, “guilty until proven innocent”

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is just flat out robbery.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Civil forfeiture is one of many bullshit laws that exists only to protect and serve the police.

[–] renlok@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How is this allowed in US, it's what you might expect from a police force in a third world country

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It shouldn’t be. Steve Lehto covers it a lot on his channel. So much there’s an actual playlist and I can tell you there’s more than 23 videos on the topic.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIN0HaGKANpp8-Zw7NEh9XokjmzYCIRiL

In fact these are all over a year old. It’s just abhorrent.

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Did they? That's pretty much what I got out of the headline.

[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bullies taking people's lunch money

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yup, and it's on YOU to know they have no actual power to stop you.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

They shouldn't but absolutely do. They follow the conservative maxim and consider themselves part of the in-group

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition ... There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” --Frank Wilhoit"

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Phantastic country where the police can just legally rob you.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In fairness, it DOES vary state by state. Some states require a conviction before they can just seize your assets, but not all of them.

One of the interesting things about having 50 different rules and regulations.

https://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-rights/asset-forfeiture-laws-by-state.html

[–] philpo@feddit.de 7 points 2 years ago

well, this is federal, so it applies to all states...

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I was followed around by an obvious undercover one time, assumed they were checking me as a terrorist, but it was far more likely they thought I was a mule.

Me: Middle-aged white guy, desert combat boots, straw cowboy hat, huge CamelBak. When I travel, in any way, I dress for comfort, weather and the ability to handle whatever random shit comes my way.

Here's what I wrote at the time so I don't mix up memories:

Got followed around DFW by an OBVIOUS undercover. Standard-issue ex-military federalé. White guy, early 40's, good looking, square jaw, shaved tight, excellent shape. Clothes so plain it was obvious he was trying to blend in, BUT the kinda boots you wear to hike or fight in. Ever seen a 30/40-something undercover cop in a college bar? Yeah, that guy, except the look screamed professional. Seems this guy is tailing me, I might be paranoid, pulled some "tradecraft". Turned and came back at him. He stops to look in a closed perfume/soap shop window. Not a place in which guys would be interested, nothing to actually see in there, and he's obviously not looking into the store. He's watching my reflection!

Glanced at a shop window, oh lawd he comin'! Went a few dozen yards down the concourse, pulling my tail along, spun a 180 and walked back through the crowd waiting to board. He casually spun into facing another random shop, unfocused eyes, perfectly still, not window shopping. Lost him soon after. Did he catch onto me?! Did he feel he was blown and called in another tail? Found me harmless and gave up? LOL, the man certainly avoided eye contact like I was some kinda Gorgon!

SO wanted to blow his cover! Wimped out.

All I can figure is that I checked a pistol case, perfectly legit, and sported a loaded CamelBak with gear loaded in the molle loops. Maybe the grenade pouch looked sus? Also, had a 7-hour layover and walked every square inch of all 5 terminals. Looked like I was casing the joint?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

"Flights from Atlanta to Los Angeles are routinely monitored by these officers, who call them “known drug trafficking routes.”"

[–] hiddengoat@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

Atlanta cops are scum? Never would have guessed.