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Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

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https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Israel bombs next to al-Shifa Hospital, explosions puncture darkness in Gaza

Al Jazeera’s live feed from Gaza shows almost complete darkness, with the huge explosions that accompany Israel’s bombs roaring through the besieged enclave intermittently.

Some of the latest attacks have hit next to Gaza City’s al-Shifa Hospital and the Indonesian Hospital, as well as the Breij refugee camp.

A near-total communication blackout in Gaza means that most of the residents there are unable to reach emergency services, nor are they able to tell the world about what is happening on what is surely a terrifying – and deadly – night for civilians.

holy fuck the animals are actually going for it

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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

Update from the Front:

I awoke this morning to find my country (my apartment) had been invaded by terrorists (ants). They were not present yesterday when I was conducting environmental pollution mitigation exercises (cleaning my apartment), but they appeared to have found soft targets for their terrorism (some crumbs under a file cabinet that props up one end of my desk).

A fierce battle was waged into the early afternoon. I captured 100+ terrorists using my latest wunderwaffe (a handheld vacuum) but later released these POWs back into enemy territory (my balcony). I have conducted both aerial and ground chemical warfare attacks (sprayed lemon and eucalyptus essential oil) around suspected entrance points to deter further enemy incursions. So far the truce has held. I have taken no casualties and I estimate enemy casualties to be less than 5.

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[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (8 children)
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[–] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (15 children)

My guesses (they're pretty wild, as I know nothing of American politics):

  • They will not decide on a speaker

  • They will not be able to do any fucking thing

  • Pressure mounts as the US needs to act to keep it's colonies

  • Some false flag somewhere to justify direct action

  • Biden/Dems try a maneuver to give him special powers during time of war

  • Republicans take it as a coup and civil war begins

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[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (4 children)

NATO is the armed wing of the US, the UN is the diplomatic wing

shouldn't be a controversial statement really

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[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (10 children)

GeoConfirmed ISR-PAL - Hospital Bombing

Based on the geolocation of new footage its highly likely that:

The missile -Al Jazeera footage- is an interceptor. (Iron Dome) The explosion in the air is too far away to be related to the hospital explosion.

https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1716113399728218618?t=ShtdLt8NYE-Hi0BhBpS-CQ&s=19

No fucking way! This is what happens when any idiot online can become an "OSINT expert."

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Pro-Palestine content creators are being offered thousands of dollars to change their position

https://youtu.be/Vd9orGODd7M

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[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
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[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Watching some footage of Israeli incursion into Gaza and... holy shit, western miltaries learned absolutely nothing from the Ukraine war. Israeli tanks are just moving in these big dumb columns. If this army tries going into Gaza-city, it'll be a complete fucking disaster

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Al-Jazeera - Qatar is in the advance stages of reaching a ceasefire deal between Israel & Hamas.

A breakthrough could be achieved in the coming days.

I've seen tonnes and tonnes of rumours about this today. I think it's legit. Combined with the fact that domestically the political situation is turning against a ground operation....

I think it's a real possibility, I'm getting hopeful.

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[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I find it interesting that reddit was initially billed (well, early on, I'm not a reddit history expert and I'm not going to look it up) as a "news aggregator"; on reddit you'd post a link to a news article and there's a centralised source of comments and discussion. The language of that hasn't carried over to hexbear, but we've sort of recreated the idea in the news megathread. Sort of.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

White House has not responded to report it asked Qatar to tone down Al Jazeera’s coverage

The report by the Axios news agency said US top diplomat Antony Blinken had, less than two weeks ago, asked his Qatari counterpart to “tone down Al Jazeera’s rhetoric” on the Israel-Gaza war.

Reporting from Washington, Al Jazeera’s White House correspondent Kimberly Halkett said the administration has not responded to the report. She added that while Qatar “funds Al Jazeera, it does not in any way editorially shape our coverage”.

“I can tell you that, in my own interactions with the Biden administration, I have had pushback where I’ve been told that our coverage is critical of US foreign policy, and I defended it saying that that is healthy and that is what our job is to do,” she said.

“While there has been no attempt to try and in any way dispute this on the part of the White House, I can tell you from my own personal experiences that this certainly does echo what I have experienced here on the White House campus and in my interactions with the White House press office,” she said.

- Al Jazeera

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Reuters:

Israel's military said on Monday its ground forces mounted limited raids into Gaza and airstrikes targeted Palestinian militants assembling to repulse any wider Israeli invasion, as each side prepares for the next stage of the escalating war.

Palestinian group Hamas said on Sunday its fighters had engaged an armoured force infiltrating a southern area of Gaza and destroyed some Israeli military equipment before returning to base. There was no Israeli comment on such losses.

Some on Twitter are saying that both Israeli and US small groups (perhaps special forces?) entered Gaza to look for hostages and were killed/repelled. I've been curious about how our very special adult sons (of which the uncensored photo was taken, then deleted and reposted with censorship, lmfao) are even gonna attempt to find hostages in heavily defended and trapped cities and tunnel networks spanning hundreds of miles. Like, are they gonna enter a tunnel and just hope it leads somewhere important and that they don't get fucking owned by militants who know the network like the back of their hands? The assault to find and kill Osama bin Laden was a comedy of errors and that didn't involve thousands of armed soldiers defending him that the soldiers had to fight past. Are they donning their Halo Spartan armor and shit?

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Deranged Zionist Rabbi: Conquest is a mitzvah and God purposely surrounds Israel with enemies to hint at our religious duty to conquer.

He gets a shoutout in a Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_(Israeli_settlement)

In April 2019, the head of the school, Rabbi Eliezer Kashtiel (he), was filmed lecturing to students on the genetic inferiority of gentiles, Palestinians, on their stupidity, and the need for them to be enslaved. He endorsed racism, and the superiority of the Jewish people.

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[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Bold move from the Israelis, trying to throw UN secretary General under the bus

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Anyone remember "48-72 hours"?

lmao arrogant settler nonsense

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[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

China's Age of Malaise

The New Yorker - in this article, China's bourgeois wonders why a country that claims to be communist isn't allowing them to further accumulate wealth and capital.

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[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago

Novelist, poet, and educator Heba Abu Nada, a beloved figure in the Palestinian literary community and the author of Oxygen is Not for the Dead, was killed in her home south of Gaza City by an Israeli airstrike on Friday. She was thirty-two years old.

https://lithub.com/read-the-last-words-of-writer-heba-abu-nada-who-was-killed-last-week-by-an-israeli-airstrike/

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

A nazi is currently trying to convince me that Cum Town is right wing.

EDIT: Yeah they genuinely don't get it lmao they just take all the race bits at face value.

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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

‘Active investigations ongoing’: ICC Prosecutor

If you’re just joining us here’s more on the International Criminal Court’s Prosecutor Karim Khan news conference which happened in Cairo on Sunday.

Khan said the court has “active investigations ongoing” in relation to “crimes allegedly committed in Israel on October 7, and also in relation to Gaza and the West Bank in our jurisdiction, going back to 2014”.

“We are independently looking at the situation in Palestine, we are looking at events in Israel and the allegations that Palestinian nationals have also committed crimes,” Khan said.

the ICC is looking at allegations that Palestinians committed crimes guys

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[–] Sleazy_Albanese@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)


Summary of televised Abu Obeida speech by The Cradle:

Military spokesman for Hamas' Qassam Brigades, Abu Obeida:

  • The occupation's aggression and its perpetration of the Holocaust and massacres are caused by the great pain it experiences.
  • We say to the enemy who repeats his threats of ground invasion on a daily basis, that we are still waiting for him to taste new types of death.
  • The time of selling the illusion to the world about the lie of the invincible army and the supernatural Merkava is over, after we destroyed it in the Gaza Strip.
  • We wait impatiently for the time of your humiliation.
  • The curse of the eighth decade will fall upon them.
  • Be confident, our people, that our victory is coming.
    We renew our call to the honorable people of our nation and the mujahideen of the region to consider this battle a decisive battle, and to rise with us.
  • The large number of enemy prisoners we have has the price of emptying all prisons of all [Palestinian] prisoners.

Note: at one point in Arabic he said

الى الزعماء العرب ، نقول لكم من قلب المعركة التي تشاهدون لا شك تفاصيلها ، اننا لا نطالبكم بالتحرك للدفاع عن اطفال العروبة لتحريك دباباتكم لاسمح الله ، هل وصل بكم الضعف والعجز انكم لاتستطيعون تحريك سيارات اغاثة الى جزء من ارضكم العربية الاسلامية.

Translated:

To the Arab leaders, we say to you from the heart of the battle, the details of which you are undoubtedly witnessing, that we are not asking you to move to defend the children of Arabism, to move your tanks, God forbid. Have you become so weak and impotent that you are unable to move relief vehicles to a part of your Arab and Islamic land?

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'm feeling so productive. Helped a lot of trans people this past week, apparently its that time of year? I LOVE MY PEOPLE trans-hammer-sickle

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[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Hexbear is a Troskyist website. The News Mega is a Newspaper.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The number of Zionist detainees slain in the Gaza Strip as a result of Zionist bombing and massacres has reached 50.

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[–] GodDamnAmercia@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Glory to the heroic resistance fighters of Palestine fighting for their eventual and just victory of human dignity.

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[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"If it comes down to it, you could totally take on the entire Arab world by yourself"

  • Sun Tzionist
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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (3 children)

🇵🇸🇮🇱⚡️Hamas-linked telegram group says that a tank was blown up east of Beit Hanoun. Unconfirmed.

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago
[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago

Bruh

From the Times of Israeli - Archive Link

[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Egypt leader warns his forces against ‘wrong decisions’ with Israel

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi has cautioned his military against any direct involvement in Israel’s war on Gaza.

“My message to the army and people is not to make your military power make you rush into wrong decisions,” el-Sisi said in front of dozens of tanks in the port city of Suez.

The president added the Egyptian army has a history of dealing with crises “rationally and with patience”.

Egypt has criticised Israel over its bombardment of Gaza, accusing it of trying to push hundreds of thousands of Palestinians onto its territory and nullify Palestinians’ demand for statehood.

- Al Jazeera

things you say when you're definitely in control of your military

what is this about? is Sisi worried about a coup, or just that they'll counter the next time Israel "accidentally" attacks them?

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[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago

Hamas official says no negotiations taking place with Israel

Hamas spokesman Osama Hamdan has said there are “no talks” currently taking place between the group and Israel over a potential ceasefire and prisoner exchange.

“There [were] talks and there [were] political efforts to achieve such an arrangement”, he told Al Jazeera, but there are “no talks” amid the intensified Israeli bombardment of Gaza.

Hamdan said Israeli forces are “moving towards the borders of Gaza from different points”.

“It’s clear that they know they have lost … the narrative issue, so they want to cut Gaza from the world in order to commit their crimes in deep silence,” he said.

“It’s clear they’ve started that [ground invasion], but they’re worried about the consequences, they are worried about what might happen on the ground and they are facing a very strong resistance.”

[–] pillow@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (4 children)

news mega wisdom from our largest adult son in the 25 august vlog

No blowback is actually blowback. Even if the results are unintended, they are always then turned into opportunities because of the commanding position, because of the ability to act that is monopolized by the United States at the global level. That means every situation can be turned to [its] best interests.

Which is one of the reasons that people who reason backwards about every social revolt in the world as having to be an American op because as it unfolds the United States ends up benefiting from it- is ridiculous, is childlike thinking.

America dominates because any spontaneous and sincere social resistance is going to be unorganized and probably defeated, but the pressure on the state that it creates will persist and can be exploited by the one power that can act: the United States.

Sometimes the United States orchestrates things, when it has to. But for the most part it doesn't have to. That's one of those things that super-blackpilled conspiracy people who think they're telling you deep, hard truths- are actually being incredibly naive. Because they assume that the United States has to have that level of conspiratorial interference going on in order to benefit from everything. Not that its role as imperial hegemon makes that the default state everywhere.

I think the cia probably has fingers in more pies than he gives it credit for, but the ability to maneuver in response to organic social unrest around the world is an important piece of maintaining atlantic imperialism that I don't see people talk about very much

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[–] Huldra@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Anthony Bourdain would be a "Israeli war crimes are cringe but Hamas does have to go" guy right now.

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[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

first

hahaha im more terminally online than you guys hahahaha

ha

im going to bed now

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Another deranged Zionist who wants to turn Gaza into Dresden: https://nitter.cz/Anna_AnninaEl/status/1717460569601475007

And the dude isn't a nobody but has a rather length Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moshe_Feiglin

Let's try to search for, I don't know, "Hitler":

Hitler was an unparalleled military genius. Nazism promoted Germany from a low to a fantastic physical and ideological status. The ragged, trashy youth body turned into a neat and orderly part of society and Germany received an exemplary regime, a proper justice system and public order. Hitler savored good music. He would paint. This was no bunch of thugs. They merely used thugs and homosexuals.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Jesus fuck - American cops.

"We don't have an official suspect in the murder right now but we already know it's not a hate crime." And I have to wonder if the untouched flag is "proof" to the cops it wasn't a hate crime.

Samantha Woll: Authorities conducting 'countless interviews' to determine a suspect and motive in Detroit synagogue leader's fatal stabbing | CNN

Authorities do not believe at this time that the crime was motivated by antisemitism, White said, adding police believe the assailant acted alone.

“We have a number of people that give us interest, we are just short of calling one of the people a suspect, but we are working to that end,” the chief said. “We are confident that we’re going to develop a suspect, we’re not there right now as of this press conference.”

Woll had a large Israeli flag in her apartment that was left untouched, a law enforcement source told CNN earlier.

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[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 51 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Holy shit, the arachnids have launched a meteor. All of Buenos Ares is gone. 9 million dead. 12.5 million wounded, that’s about 500,000 9/11s. This is a tragic offensive that only bugs could plan, but also bugs can’t think. So they are both the manipulators of worlds, and scum of the universe. It’s perfect! WERE GOING TO WAR BABY WOOHOO!

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