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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 64 points 3 days ago (1 children)

good for them

when somebody on the right says "this is just asking for trouble", tell them that Kyle Rittenhouse went there to defend businesses (not even people) and they approved of his actions, and so they can shut the fuck up

[–] BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Don't even try to give them an argument, tell them to shut the fuck up. Never give them validity to their bullshit arguments.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 21 points 3 days ago

The best argument against people who argue in bad faith is "I don't care" and move on.

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[–] Lydia_K@lemmy.world 257 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Hell yeah, the Black Panthers are exactly the heroes we need right now.

[–] Cowbee_Admirer@reddthat.com 22 points 3 days ago

Agreed! Just to remind everyone, from Wikipedia:

The Black Panther Party (originally the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense) was an American far-left, Marxist–Leninist and black power political organization

Marxism-Leninism offers answers to the literal problems we're living today. Organize and read!!

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[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 89 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Remember: Peaceful protests are like barking - annoying, but by itself harmless. It's the fear of the bite that makes the barking scary.

You don't have to jump straight to violence, and I believe that it's more effective to start with non-violent demands. Once you escalate, there's nowhere left to go. But the threat of it is what makes the peaceful option less destructive.

As the saying goes: Nothing will meaningfully change until the rich fear for their lives.

[–] Eternalposer@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

"Power concedes nothing without a demand." -Fredrick Douglas

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unions are the peaceful alternative for negotiations that workers and their bosses agreed upon instead of dragging them out of the factory into the street and beating them to death.

More people need to remember this history.

Even MLK credited the success of his work during the Civil Rights Movement to the Black Panthers being willing to do what he could not, and the Million Man March on Washington - seen today as an example of successful peaceful protest - was a threat to every white American in a seat of power. If he could mobilize a million people to shut down the capital of the federal government peacefully, imagine what else they could do.

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is the key point that many do not get. There must be the threat of violence AND the non-violent union/organised resistance option to defeat authoritarian governments. One or the other on its own will not work.

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[–] scttgard@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

Just remember how scared and violent the Philidelphia police got when they felt threatened by the Black Panthers in the 80's. The MOVE bombing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing

[–] DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 2 days ago

We need more self-defense (or community defense) now more than ever. For Renee Nicole Good.

[–] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 167 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Good. I'm willing to bet jackbooted thugs are less likely to shoot someone when there's a visibly armed protestor nearby.

[–] Clusterfck@lemmy.sdf.org 67 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I’m not sure if it’s crazier that statement was made or the fact that I read it and agreed with it before I even thought how crazy of a time this is.

[–] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 32 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Hard agree on that front. The world is absolutely crazypants batshit right now.

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[–] scaredoftrumpwinning@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Think of a bully if someone stronger stands up to them they will run a way. I would like to see vets, blank panthers and others stand and protect the protesters. Having black panthers and vets unite for one common cause would send a powerful message.

[–] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Not specifically for vets, but the Iron Front is very popular with a lot of the antifascist vets I know, including myself.

https://www.ironfrontusa.org/

Edit - The Sons of Liberty are specifically a vet organization

https://linktr.ee/officialsonsofliberty

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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 102 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What else is there to say?

[–] RaoulDuke85@piefed.social 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] toppy@lemy.lol 11 points 2 days ago

The black panther party needs to come back again. USA needs a revolution.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fuck yes! Show them something more than a sign saying "I'm not very happy about the current state of affairs. Sorry"!

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago

Hey, my city is on Lemmy!

wait... shit... my city is in the news...

shit's about to go down... 👀

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Eeeeyyyy, the Black Panthers are still a thing?

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They never stopped being a thing

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 73 points 3 days ago (12 children)

This is so surreal.

It's like opening up your browser to be reading about The Weather Underground or the SDS or something....but then again, about 20 years ago, I don't think I was thinking we'd have a Nazi sympathizer in the fucking White House, either, so I also thought Nazis were largely a part of history that would stay in the past.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Operation Paperclip. You've had multiple Nazis in the white house, the last one repeatedly lied about seeing 40 beheaded children to justify funding and shielding a genocide.

Trump is just the first fascist Nazi. But America has been totally fine synopsizing with Nazis.

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[–] gerowen@piefed.social 64 points 3 days ago (1 children)

How much you wanna bet certain conservative people start talking about gun control, or imposing restrictions on being armed at protests or something?

[–] lemming741@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't know if you're being rhetorical, but that is the pattern

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulford_Act

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago

Good to see others getting armed.

[–] Aubmaire@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

about fucking time

[–] duncan_bayne@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

Historically, angry Marxist-Leninists with guns have been very useful allies in dealing with NAZIs! But history suggests that things didn't work out too well afterwards, for those ruled by the angry Marxist-Leninists with guns ...

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[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 40 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I understand black Panthers or for blacks folks. But it's it also open to other folks like Hispanics?

There's a lot of vets that are Hispanic that could and would help, but again I understand if this is only a black folks only thing.

[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 68 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The real Black Panthers? They would... probably still prefer it to be a sister org to focus on the African American community but they would very much be allies.

These Black Panthers? Who the hell knows?

Because the thing people forget is that the reason The Black Panthers were so effective wasn't because they were walking around locked and loaded. It was because of all the community outreach they did. So when the (white) cops and government came knocking? The neighborhoods locked arms because these were people who had been protecting them and who cared about them.

[–] miguel@fedia.io 52 points 3 days ago

So, in the article it very specifically highlights their many community programs like the food program they're doing in several locations.

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[–] AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Hispanic protestors used to have the Young Lords and the Brown Berets, who the Panthers have partnered with in the past.

Both, as far as I know, are no longer active, but I'm sure there would be support for reviving them today.

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