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[–] pensa@kbin.social 64 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 2 years ago (3 children)

In fairness, Arnold Schwarzenegger already has political experience as governor of California. He'd be the most qualified celebrity for the Whitehouse if he was a naturally born citizen.

[–] blueeggsandyam@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Except that was the same thing that gave us Reagan. He was an actor. Then governor of California. Then president. We are still paying for all his bullshit.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The most qualified doesn't mean the best qualified, though.

[–] Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

Can't disagree with that!

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Natural born is a common misconception. Naturalized is sufficient - he can be president if he wants. 14th amendment clarifies this point.

[–] geissi@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Could you quote the part where it says they can become president?
All I can find is that they become citizens:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the US Constitution explicitly states:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As I understand, this is based on settled case law, Schneider vs Rusk, where it was decided that preventing natural born citizens from holding office such as president violates due process. As you quoted above, “All citizens naturalized…are citizens”.

This is the lynchpin to progressive candidate Cenk Uygur’s bid for presidency in 2024. He expects this case law to be challenged and decided in the Supreme Court, and anticipates a victory there for himself and the 25million-some other naturalized citizens who wish to enjoy the due process they’ve earned.

Personally, I think he’s right that Biden is a fool for ignoring the current 10-15 point deficit in the polls vs trump. Biden needs to get out of the way for literally any other dem to come in and sweep the election, and hopefully this will be how it happens!

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[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Also, no more septuagenarians.

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

over 75 years old
white male
independently wealthy
tough guy image
media-famous for something that has nothing to do with politics
not allowed to run according to the Constitution

Well, he checks all current boxes for a Republican candidate

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

He is probably the only republican I could see myself supporting

[–] Jerkules_Jerkules@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

While I like Arny a lot more than anyone else I have seen looking for the position please, no more celebrity politicians.

[–] Schmeckinger@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean he can't run anyways.

[–] Jerkules_Jerkules@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

As of now, yes. However, there are a lot of people in the US who would like to change the stipulation that naturalized citizens can not be president. So a push for this could pass, especially for someone like Schwarzenegger who is a republican and the right kind of immigrant.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That would require a constitutional amendment, and if you think the country has any chance of passing any of those with polarization as high as it is, I've got a bridge to sell you.

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[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've talked to a person IRL who didnt understand that Arnold is a US citizen, was the governor of California, but was born in Austria and cannot be president.

To some people, they also think foreigners can't be governors and were convinced one of his parents were American because he "looks American"

It's not necessarily related to this post, but a personal anecdote about my experiences with stupidity

[–] KISSmyOS@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

because he “looks American”

That's the issue Obama had in the Republican's eyes. He looks African.
/s

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Meh. I like him better as a commentator. His run managing California wasn’t that great. That said, I think he’s a damn sight better than anything the conservatives have in line for president.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] SuckMyWang@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yes he can but I don’t think he’s very fast

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If you hear Arnold on various podcasts, his ideas in general are pretty meathead.

He talked about solving the lack of a House speaker by "Locking everyone in a room with no bathroom until they have a solution."

His solution for his child forgetting to turn off a light was to "Throw the mattress out of the window into the pool."

This is a dude who has more experience banging his fists demanding things than actually leading. Where I think he'll do some progressive things, just like Reagan, he'll do some thing that sounds good on paper but not at all researched and then fuck over the country for decades after their death.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

He talked about solving the lack of a House speaker by "Locking everyone in a room with no bathroom until they have a solution."

The solution the came up with? Piss.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, in the recent podcast with Rob Lowe there was a lot of "industry good, government bad" with an extra helping of "both sides are the same". He was also praising Reagan several times. Arnie is a conservative boomer through and through.

[–] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago

Why unlock the door when they reach a solution? Just leave them in there.

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[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People realize Demolition Man was a dystopia, right?

[–] ThePantser@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That was Stallone, Arnold was Running Man

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There’s a line in Demolition Man where they talk about the fact that Arnold becomes president after a change in laws that allows him to run. That’s what GP is referring to.

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[–] netburnr@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why did they use a 30 year old photo?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

From his time campaigning to be governor?

Old but relevant?

[–] HollandJim@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, he's old enough now...

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He can't be anyways. He wasn't born in the U.S.

[–] iesou@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

They got around it in Demolition Man.

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Laugh all you want, but honestly? I believe him. He would be leagues better than most politicians we have.

[–] Treczoks@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well he wouldn't be the worst

[–] Toastypickle@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That bar can't get much lower

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[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

In a movie, yes.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago

I want Arnold Schwarzenegger to become a host of a cooking show featuring pastries

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago
[–] weedazz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Could he be speaker? Anyone can right? Or is that not allowed because of succession?

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

I believe he could be Speaker of the House. If a succession issue appeared, he would simply be skipped over.

Pretty sure Biden and Harris and their teams are making sure that only one of them at a time is on a plane, and that they both stay on completely different tectonic plates at all times.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't that require an amendment to the Constitution?

[–] jabrd@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

Yea he’d probably be a decent one by american standards

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