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[–] angband@lemmy.world 123 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Just remember that we could all have our social security if the top 1% paid a fractionof the taxes they used to.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago

Social security, Healthcare, maternal leave, paid vacations,cross country high speed rail etc etc etc

[–] hector@lemmy.today 22 points 2 weeks ago

Remember if they hadn't understated the inflation rate several times since the 70s social security checks would be enough to retire comfortably on, as jobs used to be enough to live comfortably on. Well over double by the old unimproved formula, that averaged 5-8 percent just by 2008, while the new formula returned 2-3%.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

if the top 1% paid a fractionof the taxes they used to.

Could you give an example of a year in which the top 1% paid enough taxes to satisfy this condition?

[–] angband@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

To support around a 1% shortfall in fica, fica is about .5% of all income (feel free to fact check, I guessed a bit), 1950 fits the bill for their actual paid percentage of 41% vs their statutory 89%.

Edit: it'd be interesting to know how much of a fica shortfall 4% taxes on the 1% would cover. Somewhere in the range of 50-150% is my guess. Seems more than the projected shortfalls. Now, if they got taxed at 91% for real, noone else would have to pay [much] income tax, and they could raise fica on the rest of us without objection.

Anyone still on twitter is a piece of shit.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)
[–] Asafum@lemmy.world 57 points 2 weeks ago

Probably something like they're Hard Workers™©® who have to ~~not~~ pay taxes that feed the "lazy parasite poors"

It also means: I'm letting you know that I'm an awful piece of shit.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

It’s hard for the top 1% to feel good about themselves on account of their clear status as society’s leaches (except they’re not vital parts of the ecosystem like real leeches are).

In order to get around these Hard Feelings they have to step into a fantasy narrative where they aren’t necessarily bad, certainly not harmful, maybe it’s the rest of the world that’s bad come to think of it, maybe they really did earn this, finders keepers right? Who says there is any objective reality to right and wrong? It’s all optics right? Why should the golden rule apply to everyone?!

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

He's whining about having to pay a tiny fraction of a fraction of his wealth to support "the poors".

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 4 points 2 weeks ago

A lot of the republicans I know honestly believe there's a huge swath of people on wellfare who are totally healthy and could work if they wanted to, but instead they take government handouts and make a whole bunch of money doing nothing by convincing people they're needy. I always ask them to point to even one of these supposed people, but they always change the subject.

[–] verdi@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"Legs open at 16h00 for anyone with wealth => 10^8 USD"

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They push this narrative hard. My friend absolutely believes all his issues in life are because of the poors.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

So they support policies that will raise the economic conditions of the poor, so they are not creating issues, right? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?

[–] Emmet@midwest.social 37 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pinkerton mindset. These people are enemies to their fellow workers.

(Elon can get fucked as a matter of course/for being a capitalist shithead)

[–] hector@lemmy.today 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am pretty sure Elon has severe mental challenges. He's a lot dumber than people give him credit for, and the doge was him being a figurehead for thiel and yarvin and their faction.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He does a lot of drugs. People complain about the poor doing drugs, but the rich and ultra rich do them too.

But like, Elon does a LOT of drugs.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Honestly we need to stop demonizing drugs the way we do.

Yeah you shouldn’t dose and drive. Yeah if you become an addict you should have free help. There should be clean, pure manufactured substances. You should have to take a safety class and have a license. It should be taxed. You should be protected against your employer unless you are high on the clock, or do a job that holds many people’s fate in their hands (pilots, etc).

Right now it’s just something for the cops to plant to manufacture consent for otherwise illegal searches, or it’s a way to try and exterminate the bottom 10% through adulterated black market substances and untreated addiction.

We are absolutely cruel about drug use, even most “woke leftists”.

EDIT: I got soap boxy and I almost forgot to add “Ayo fuck Elon though”. That motherfucker probably set ketamine research back 2 decades

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

II appreciate your contributions. I had not thought about requiring a license and needing safety training. I appreciate the new thoughts.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Atlas Shrugged absolutely melted the brains of future generations of fail sons.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ayn Rand wrote those books on a meth binge. She went broke later in life and would've been destitute if not for her social security and medicare.

[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ayn Rand wrote those books on a meth binge.

Huh, didn't know about that part.

[–] etherphon@midwest.social 21 points 2 weeks ago

Those people have zero power politically or economically so I have no idea how they are holding anything back, by definition, conservatism is what is holding us back. I suppose all of that, though, depends on what your vision of the future looks like. I want a vibrant, lively, celebratory, affirming, prosperous future for every human being. Idk how that is somehow controversial today but here we are.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago

Spoiler: the top 1% are the real thugs

[–] Dju@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can we just launch him to Mars already?

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Absolutely. No need for a lander stage, he can decelerate himself by his own bootstraps.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

God how I would love to see a homeless person whipping elon musk.

[–] Bakkoda@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

These people genuinely want that 10% dead. They want them to not exist.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That just moves the "problem" closer to them.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

If only Elon could do something to get out of the top 10% of wealth holders...

It will remain a mystery.

[–] abbadon420@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

Today I learned that the USA used to have a 91% cap on income tax and 71% on property tax. That was in the 50's, under Eisenhower.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 weeks ago

LIQUIDATE MUSK (financially, in Minecraft)

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

X axis: % of public support a measure

Y axis: % of legislators who support a measure

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks. Something like this (e.g. farside.link) should be automatic on all Lemmy servers.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

First, you helped make the "thugs".

Second, you're never going to be filthy rich. You're among the "thugs", as far as billionaires are concerned, and they don't give one flying fuck about any of us, beyond the concern that we might someday make them pay the ultimate tax.

[–] lennee@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

i will open a bottle of champagne whenever elon bites the dust. Im glad all his wealth will mean nothing in the end.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I guess he thinks The Don, who kicked him out of the club, is the bad 1%?
Well, Muskrat being the world's richest 12yo is nothing new.

BTW:

You say you're self sufficient (but you don't dig your own coal)

I think that what you're frightened of more than anything
Is knowing you need workers more than they need you

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

So she is stupid or she is elon in drag.

[–] nqua@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

bottom 10% in morale ARE the richest 10% which includes top 1% obviously.

see, a person who doesnt have enough to survive is only trying to survice and probably even beeing forces to do crimes by some gov that holds the key position AND the duty to help him not to need that.

a person who has enough money to never need to work in entire life but commits crimes anyway is the only savage one in that game.

those bottom 10% in morale who oppress all mankind ARE the top 10% financially.

[–] moondoggie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Is this why they love the Confederate flag? Because they think the first Civil War was about freeing the millionaires?

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I’d like to sell him off for the 90% then.