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This is, uh, this is not how judges normally sign off on opinions:
Normally, no. However it does humanize Liam Conejo Ramos as a child. The judge isn't talking about some child that the public can't visualize. We actually get to see what Liam Conejo Ramos looks like.
Are you suggesting it’s inappropriate?
No. I am suggesting that these times are abnormal.
I have to wonder if they really are, or if Trumps regime is just so terrible at optics that we are seeing all the rot they been hiding behind the curtain for years.
He’s not smart enough to amass this much power this fast. He’s not rich enough. He’s not influential enough.
He stole something someone shouldn’t have had in the first place.
He's trying to add every single bit of gravitas to his order
It's amazing, tbh, one thing I didn't expect from this entire situation is that the judiciary starts to really flex their literary and theatrical muscles in their authority, because while most legal business is rote ritual, they take advantage of that with this, and allow their legal opinions and the weight of their urgency to be seen
It gives me a little hope
How can you tell you’re in a republicans house? The bible still has shrink wrap.
That or the pages are littered with paragraph-long highlights, underscores, and "THIS!!!" in the margins but no critical thought or insights on the passages
the date on the order is 2/31/2026..... 🤦
It only adds to the sense that he was quivering with barely restrained rage as he wrote the order, which also came through in the text quite nicely I thought.
Yeah, the Bible should not enter legal documents and a judge seemingly taking guidance from it should be disbarred.
Leave it to militant atheists to be more concerned about fighting religion than about fighting fascism
Indeed, let's return a 5 year old child to jail because the judge said a few words from the bible. Grow the fuck up. I grew up in a very conservative Christian family, I never was a believer myself but I do respect each ones beliefs as long as they don't bring any harm.
Wishing for a 5 year old child to return to jail because the judge said a few bible phrases is absolutely macabre.
Calm the fuck down when people are doing the right thing.
Jeez I swear we will lose every battle ever because leftists are always seeking places to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Edit: reminder people, there are very real agents against better outcomes who are paid to make these kinds of takes to make people like us, the ones opposing fascism, to argue and fight about stupid shit like this. It's objectively stupid to argue that a judge who did a good thing and is fighting for liberty be disbarred for slipping two bible references in his signature, it's nonsense.
So more likely than not, this user is one of the many, many trolls from troll farms across the world dedicated to making people fight each other, not the powers that want to shove ALL of you in a camp. Clap them back but then block and move on. There are too many impressionable people here who will read a whole thread of back and forth and despair that they don't know who's right.
Well said, thank you!
Not caring "how" while being okay with the "what" is how we are losing the rule of law. I echo OP's sentiment on the importance of the separation of church and state. A judge citing the Bible should be discouraged, even if we agree with his ruling. Sounds like he was trying to point out the hypocrisy of Trump's rhetoric, but even that, I'd argue, is not his role.
Have you read the Jefferson Bible? He took all the magic shit out so it's just Jesus the moral philosopher.
Perhaps, but, I won’t complain about Christian theology being used against Christofascists, of which I suspect many ICE agents are. Donald Trump has been known to wave a Bible around. Turnabout is fair play.
And why are you making multiple comments about it? Give it a rest already.
I think it’s cute how mad this guy got lol. Wait til he finds out ICE murders people.
The regime uses religion to justify ignoring legal norms. The judge knew exactly what he was doing. Basically, even if the Bible matters more than the law, this is STILL wrong.
I agree. It does not matter if it was used in a good way this one time. Next time might be against abortion.
