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Can we achieve something similar to human intelligence?

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[โ€“] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

There was a great experiment with chimps and human babies that shows a critical difference in our thought patterns. Researchers put grapes in a cage and gave the chimp/child a rake with tines wider than the grapes. They showed the chimp/child how to use the rake tines to slowly, laboriously scrape the grapes into reach. Both the chimp and child were able to quickly copy what they were showed.

Here is the difference. The child immediately realized that they could flip the rake over and use the flat part to drag all the grapes over in one quick swoop. The chimp never made that logical jump and kept copying the slow way it was shown.

The ability to rapidly envision other options and innovate is a distinct difference from apes/monkeys and humans. This isn't determined by any one gene. It's a complex combination of multiple genes. It is significantly harder to breed for something like this than for example brown hair or green eyes. Not impossible, but unlikely.

[โ€“] 0ops@piefed.zip 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I wonder if a corvid could pass a comparable test (one more compatible)?

[โ€“] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Off the top of my head, elephants, dolphins, and perhaps squid could pass such a test. I'm not sure about corvids. They are highly teachable and excellent at manipulating their environment, but are limited at tool use.

[โ€“] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Corvids are significantly better at tool use than the other animals you mentioned.

They're able to figure out that they can drop pebbles into a half-filled container of water to raise the water level, and doing it enough will raise the water high enough for them to be able to drink it. They also regularly use sticks to picl food out of tight spaces.

Overall, corvids tend to be as smart at 3-5 year olds