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Among them, “entering houses without permission to use the bathroom,” “break-ins,” “littering,” and people “defecating in private yards” and “complaining when residents catch them.”
I really don't understand how a tourist can think any of this makes sense. Like, would they do this in their country too?
China. These are China-nese tourists. They used to do the same shit in Taiwan before the government banned them.
I saw a mom put their kid on the trashcan so he could pee into a trash can. This was an indoor mall.
It's a frequent issue in Hong Kong too where people from the mainland will just shit right in the street and walk away like its no big deal.
I was not aware that mainland China had designated shitting streets.
Huh
how do they wipe?
They don't.
Really though people carry toilet paper in China because public restrooms don't have it.
Oh they do wipe. They preemptively decided to shit in public.
It's worse that they do wipe. They don't take their tissues with them and drop it on their poop and the wind starts terrorizing the local people cuz that tissue becomes a moving bio weapon.
Tourists are usually mindful of the country they're visiting, but then most Mainland Chinese are former farm peasants who suddenly got wealthy for some reason and live in big cities, so able to even travel abroad, but unfortunately have little to no understanding of etiquette and how to properly conduct themselves elsewhere.
about the damn unable to find the toilet: I'm sure some have trouble communicating in a foreign country, or worse, unable to comprehend symbology, they end up rolling back to default behavior by just squatting and dumping where they see as convenient to them.
It still feels weird though.
Farm peasants over here, know to shit in farm areas where it would actually serve as manure, rather than right next to the street.
I would also assume they actually dig before and cover later.
Weirdly, you don't see that behavior from Chinese tourists in China. Well I did see one dude have hus toddler piss on the floor of a train because the bathroom was occupied, but he got yelled at, because in chinese culture, its considered disrespectful to piss on the floor. They even have a concept called "别他妈的往地板上撒尿".
They played too many JRPGs and got the wrong idea
right like this is a whole new level of unhinged
Maybe I'm too Usian to understand this but the article doesn't call out tourists from any particular country. So it's odd to me that China is being called out so much in the comments.
People know.. If this news was from somewhere in Europe everyone would be blaming the Brits in the comments. It's known..
I doubt it.
Americans and Brits tourists here in Europe do indeed have a certain reputation, but Chinese tourists have such a bad reputation that Brits and Americans are welcomed with open arms.
The biggest problem are the groups though. Any group is going to behave badly, nationality doesn't matter. And that in combination with how different Chinese culture is in some aspects just has given them a bad reputation worldwide.
As the article points out, we're also in an election (voting is today (Sunday Japan time)) so the cynical side of me worders if the timing is coordinated since fear and "foreigners bad" are successfully distracting from actual issues of rising prices and stagnant wages leading to a lower quality of life
I live in the US and I have no idea what that's like.
/s
I don't doubt some of this stuff happened, but I also wouldn't be surprised if some of it is nationalist fear mongering. Just like the whole "tourists are kicking the deer" rumor where no evidence ever surfaced. Some nationalist Japanese really like to stoke the anti-foreigner flames.
But Japan truly does have an over-tourism problem so this could absolutely be justified.
They desperately need more immigration though, don't they?
Maybe they could say "you can come to the festival, but only if you don't leave."
They do but I don't know if there is a significant conversion from tourism to immigration. I think most tourists are taking advantage of the weak yen, not trying to live there long term.
Tourists who can afford to fly on an airplane and therefore presumably understand how a toilet works are actually defecating in yards? I admit I didn't read the article but it doesn't pass my smell test.
Lots of narrative building going on in this thread. I'm in another comment chain where the case is being made that Japan has the best maintained and widely available toilets in the world and yet people are still choosing to break into homes to use the bathroom and defecate in the open despite this. Hard to believe anyone can genuinely buy this so one can only assume that the underlying intention is, rather than having a discussion in good faith, to pit this on one group of people while absolving the organizers of any accountability.
Which is their prerogative but it's important that they acknowledge their bias. Japan is headed towards an alarming demographic collapse with 40% of its population being pensioners by 2046. Tourism is one of the few industries that will keep their economy and social services afloat, so I do genuinely hope they figure this out, for their sake.
My impression overall here is that most tourists try to behave very well. I see people from my home country offer gentle gestures like carrying an elderly person's bag up the stairs that they would not do at home.
The problem are the 3 fuckers among 10000 who behave like shit, and the fact that there are so many tourists especially in high season.
They do not “behave like shit”, they simply “shit”
I haven't gone to a foreign country on vacation in a long time but... why the fuck would anyone behave like this? Even the 'not my country, I am just a guest' idea is bullshit. Sure tourists are there to have a fun time and would eat and drink more than they would at home but... shitting on the street? Really?
Wouldn't a bunch of porta potties solve this?
There are public bathrooms at the park. It was packed with tourists and their litter when I went in 2024 though.
As for the streets where people actually live, they shouldn't need to have a bunch of ugly porta-potties occupying the streets in front of their home. It's a place where people have always lived, not a place that exists solely to be a tourist attraction.
I guess I wrongly assumed all tourists would have the common sense to not defacate in someone else's yard.
There are public bathrooms at the park. It was packed with tourists and their litter when I went in 2024 though.
Soooo, the festivals are probably put on by the city or area. If the bathrooms at the park were packed, then the city and area should provide more porta potties. It's kind of simple. The cities probably wanted the tourism, but are now realizing that it might not be worth it? That I get. The pooping thing though, that I don't get.
To be fair, they might've been expecting the trash, but probably weren't expecting all of the renegade pooping. Even at Ueno Park in Tōkyō, which is probably one of the most crowded places during sakura season, you'll see extra trash bins, but not porta-poddies.
I also didn't go to Arakurayama during the festival. I went in February, and if it was already crowded with literring tourists then, it must be awful during sakura season. Japan has been receiving record overtourism for the past few years (ever since re-opening in late 2022). I saw it mentioned on NHK News like almost every day. Yeah, they might be a little tired of the extra tourists now.
Someone shits in your yard and you’re going to set a porta potty out by the curb? No you’re not.
The city should
Maybe Japan could just, you know, erect public trash cans like so many other countries.
To shit in?
They haven't since the sarin gas attacks when the gas bombs went off in trash cans.
Edit: changed my mind. While I don't agree. This is not a bad idea.
The lies nationalists tell are the same all over the world
Some things are meant to be local and communal...just let it be.
It really is just tourists that people are talking about whenever right wing lunatics talk about borders.