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[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I think the writers screwed up the Borg when they added the queen.

They would be a much better antagonist if they they remained just a collective as they would be a dark mirror of the federation, by having unity and collectivism without diversity and freedom, and could complement the Ferengi, which could have been the federation's dark mirror with superficial level freedom marred by hyper-indivualism.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 13 points 1 day ago

The original Borg, to me back then when first introduced, felt like an organic version of the Doomsday Machine. Something designed for a purpose that either got out of control or morphed into a paperclip-making machine, with the goal of assimilation and no set boundaries. That's pure horror. Then they got a bit downgraded and became the latest enemy to fight.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It would be even better if in addition the borg only offered assimilation to individuals by choice, defending their right to join with overwhelming force and leaving everyone else alone. There would be a whole moral to-do about prisoners choosing the collective and the borg showing up to get them and then the Starfleet people who are lonely decide to go and then someone thinks they need to save one of those people so they go in with a plan to destroy the collective from within but realize that everyone is there by choice and they have the option to leave but don't.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 15 points 1 day ago

Utopia would be nice, but I'd settle for a world where the Star Trek franchise gets better screenwriters. (I'm liking Lower Decks though; thanks to whoever recommended that.)

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Expects utopian society, only watches first episode. Ignores every instance where things aren’t utopian / breaks rules.

DS9 great example of non utopia. Shit TNG had a ton of examples of how Starfleet isn’t perfect and there’s still political bs.

[–] pimento64@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 hours ago

DS9 was also an outlet for Rick Berman's nasty misanthropy, he despises the world of Star Trek and loathes the idea of the Federation.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

DS9 great example of non utopia.

It's a great example of the struggles to achieve utopia and the decisions made in pursuit of those goals.

Shit TNG had a ton of examples of how Starfleet isn’t perfect and there’s still political bs.

Practically a running joke that every Starfleet Admiral is trash, sure.

But they're typically described as contrary to the ideological underpinnings of Star Fleet, not agents within a system that rewards and reproduces corruption.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It’s a great example of the struggles to achieve utopia and the decisions made in pursuit of those goals.

YOU BETRAYED YOUR UNIFORM.

Mr Worf, gas that planet. If they don't evacuate in an hour, it's not my fault if they die in agony.

If the ends justify the means, and you don't get the ends, you just have the means.

[–] homes@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's a great example of the struggles to achieve utopia and the decisions made in pursuit of those goals.

It’s exactly this sort of moral complexity and nuance that gave Star Trek its best stories.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The best nostalgia is nostalgia for something that never existed in the first place.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 6 points 1 day ago

I love TOS because Kirk was a renegade rule breaker who had lots of sex, and Spock was stoic and never showed emotion ever. Also is there a more iconic phrase than "Beam me up Scotty"?

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Hell, even by first episode standards, Voyager literally starts with the Maquis rebels. It's right out the gate critical of the Federation's utopia, haha.

[–] aeiou@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I swear there's a subset of trekkies that gets mad at every episode that isn't about figuring out how to pet alien puppies

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to encourage those people, but just speaking personally... I wouldn't mind a spinoff that involved a gallant and diverse crew figuring out how to pet a different alien puppy every week.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago

Starring “Book” from Discovery.

[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'm one of those, how can I help?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Borg were the good guys the whole time. History is simply written by the most violent and territorial species.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago

/r/thecollectivedidnothingwrong

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i mean, the Borg are just the Culture seen from outside

[–] Sibilantjoe@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What? No. The Culture is about individual freedom to a high degree, even the AIs (Minds) running the show are individuals that often disagree with each other about how to proceed.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

from inside it, yeah. but the people fighting against them don't see that part. the first book makes it pretty clear that they see the culture as a ruthless unfeeling war machine that absorbs worlds into its ideology without consent.

[–] SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, in part, the struggles of a person inside a utopia would be difficult for an audience to appreciate, so The Culture novels and Star Trek both take the action to the margins, where things are messy and the struggles are more familiar.

[–] Sibilantjoe@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ah, I see what you mean now.