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It was something you could do yourself, and not have to track down some sketchy criminal to buy some fake identity that may or may not work.

It was a major crime that you could pull off all by yourself, without getting involved with anyone else

Ok rebel. But that wasn’t what we’re discussing. The point of the discussion was whether or not it was easy. And by everything you keep saying, it was an enormous pain in the ass to do what you’re describing. And well, it may not have been a pain in the ass for you in particular, for any normal person it would’ve been. And the more you keep “explaining”, the more and more you prove that to be the case.

I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue at this point. That you committed crimes and are therefore cool? Because it certainly was neither simple nor easy the way you describe it.

Yeah, that was life before the Internet. You actually had to do stuff. You couldn't just click a few keys, and get what you want.

Literally, nobody said that. And you’re also making my point that it would be a huge pain in the ass, not “easy“.

Still, to create an entirely new identity, and disappear? Today, you couldn't do it all. A little legwork and a few months of waiting for mail isn't that much to ask.

I wouldn’t know, and that’s not what we’re discussing here. And, once again, you’ve made my point for me that it wouldn’t be “easy“, it would be a gigantic pain in the ass.

Your drivers license number never changes. Those records are also permanent. So, yeah, that would be a problem for you in the future.

You just described to me how it’s extremely difficult and requires a lot of effort.

When I had a racket making fake IDs in the 90s, I didn’t go through a fraction of that much trouble, and they came out looking perfect. Because I figured out the algorithm by which New York State makes ID numbers. It wasn’t difficult. The number corresponds to several different pieces of information on the license itself. And with Photoshop, I just put your picture in there.

No traveling to a midsize Midwest city, no trolling cemeteries for dead children, no interstate identity and Social Security fraud required. And it took about 15 minutes to do.

And even then, I wouldn’t call that “pretty easy”

Nothing about that was easy. It may not have been as difficult as it is now, but it still wasn’t “easy”.

Regardless, you can count on Trump to repeat whatever Putin tells him to say.

And it would almost certainly cost you more than whatever you were paying for groceries. Not a particularly wise investment.

Not that easy. Even back in the 80s, they frequently wrote your drivers license number down on the back, especially at chain businesses like supermarkets

Yeah, OK, Trump

And he only rescinded Adams’s orders after the date on which he was indicted. The executive orders from before that stand.

Even in the United States, all of the paper money looks very different than it used to in the 1980s except for the one dollar bill. Trying to use today’s money in the past wouldn’t work in a lot of places.

Keep in mind that people made a lot less back then, so the groceries weren’t as affordable as they appear 40 years later. and you can’t tap your smartphone to pay, so you might run into some trouble. Even modern cash wouldn’t work back then, unless you play all in one dollar bills. Fives, tens, 20s, 50s, and 100s have all changed. People in the 1980s would think you’re playing with monopoly money.