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Here's the thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/24345496

users from meanwhileongrad are banned from dbzer0, so you won't be able to interact (which you shouldn't be doing anyway)

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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

This is only slightly related to MoG, considering dbzer0 is largely a tankie-apologist instance that caters to a tankie bar, and the thread only allows dbzer0 users to vote. This post here can serve as a neutral space where dbzer0 users can interact with Feddit users, and since MoG is referenced in the thread quite often.

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Do they ban any tankie communities or is Stalinism any more acceptable than Zionism?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

They sometimes ban tankies. Never asked them if Stalinism is preferable to Zionism.

[–] Emopunker@feddit.org 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is projection, because borari stopped talking to draconic NEO a long time ago. DN just keeps tagging them.

[–] TanteRegenbogen@feddit.org 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

1000045301 They are accusing you of obsessing over them while shock they are obsessing over you.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'd like to note that Draconic can post here whenever

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Good for them. That place is a cesspool.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

which one? lol

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 13 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe they were just good at keeping on the mask, but it's a bit sad because I remember a year ago seeing most of db0 openly clowning on tankies whenever they showed up.

Now Unruffled seems to be pushing to make the whole instance explicitly tankie/campist.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Db0 sometimes attacks Tankies, although self-admittedly, he is soft on them. Other times, he even camps with them.

They've both told me that they prefer spending time with tankies instead of liberals, and consider liberals the bigger threat than tankies are. Which is curious considering the history of MLs and anarchists with how the MLs often betray anarchists. I believe their accusations of calling this community a nazi-bar stems from insecurity of their own spaces, where they regularly defend prominent tankies.

I've never seen unruffled attack them though.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah after looking at the history of Ukrainian anarchists I just don't understand how anyone could be a bigger threat than tankies.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

It's because they're both communist, so Anarchists keep trying to believe in "Left Unity"

Anarchists who don't want to align with tankies are attacked for not believing in left unity, both by a few other anarchists and by many other tankies.

[–] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 5 points 6 hours ago

Somehow "left unity" always means everyone else adjusting to MLs and not the other way

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 21 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

There is a crowd of people who will call you a zionist for anything. Yesterday someone reposted a neo Nazi and used Nazi language in their post title. Me calling them on it? Makes me a zionist, obviously.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 11 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

Yeah I've had the same happen. It's very disheartening to see so many anti-zionists unknowingly repeat Nazi slogans and talking points. You point it out, you mention that 'hey, probably not a wise idea to use zio- since it's a term coined by David Duke'

and they call you the nazi. like bruh, i aint the one quoting the KKK. that's why I call them antisemitic, since if a neo-nazi was using the same arguments and excuses, I certainly wouldn't buy it.

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[–] Emopunker@feddit.org 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This popped up in my reports feed not long ago.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

Zionazi is certainly a confused word.

What's the context going on here?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 37 points 18 hours ago (9 children)

uhhhhh... saying death to any country or group is inherently violent and extremist.

[–] Emopunker@feddit.org 25 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I told them that it is not good to wish death on Israel or Palestine. Just because shitty people are in power, doesn't mean the populace has to suffer because of it. It doesn't matter which side.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 14 points 17 hours ago

that's also what i told them, but that was enough for them to consider me a zionist and ban me. for a group that larps on about how much they oppose campism they sure do use it a lot.

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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 14 points 15 hours ago
[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 13 points 16 hours ago

dbzer0 seems like a silly place, let's not go there

[–] Emopunker@feddit.org 17 points 18 hours ago (18 children)

All because we don't let them do as they like. Feddit is welcome to everybody who sticks to the rules. And the rules make it automatically difficult for people who follow hateful ideologies. I try my best to be fair to our community. Meanwhile certain dbzer0 users want us to ban people for simply believing Israel should exist, even if they are opposed to Netanyahu's regime and want settlers out of the West Bank.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It's telling that they ban you without allowing you to explain yourself. Ultimately, dbzer0 has a severe antisemitism problem, and I think we're seeing some of their users realise that.

(not so subtle reminder that dbzer0 users are allowed to post in this community, as is everyone)

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[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 17 points 18 hours ago

"They comply by laws that limit obvious hate speach, which is why we should seperate us and segregate them [because we love hate speach as long as it is directed at the right people]".

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 16 points 18 hours ago

Ridiculous, but seeing this post - good riddance. Still, what a dumb way to lose contributors to their instance.

[–] Emopunker@feddit.org 10 points 17 hours ago

A lot of alt accounts in the thread and I got the feeling that these three are the same person.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 8 points 16 hours ago

dbzero: "We don't like people getting banned for not being nice enough!"

Also dbzero: "Rule number 1 here is that you have to be nice!"

[–] Franconian_Nomad@feddit.org 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I came across a dbzer0 post with a discussion about this, the commenters were using really cringy pirate speech like „Arrr Matey“. I thought they were chatbots.

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[–] ranslite@pie.dasneuland.de 10 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] Toastbrotmann@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago
[–] gigachad@piefed.social 9 points 17 hours ago
[–] Babalugats@feddit.uk 8 points 17 hours ago

I didn't take much from it, but one thing that surprised me is that they seem to think Europe is more pro Zionist than USA weirdly.

Not the governments, the people specifically.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 18 hours ago (11 children)

This is a very interesting comment

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