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[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I would think more people would know what THAC0 is over GURPS.

I miss GURPS.

[–] Moonguide@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm very new to DnD (started as a DM a couple weeks ago), heard of gurps because of fallout message boards, no idea what THAC0 is.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

GURPS is such a great system. A lot of rules, but they all make sense, and it's so flexible.

THAC0 (To Hit Armor Class 0) was an attempt to simplify combat in earlier editions. Before then, each class had a table they had to refer to to know what they had to roll to hit a particular armor class. It's much simpler in 5e.

[–] PhinaryDivision@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 years ago

Jumping from AD&D 2e to 5e was such q trip, not being able to triple class confused the hell out of me

[–] TwilightVulpine@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In 2023? I don't think so. I got into D&D decades ago and THAC0 was already not a thing anymore. Gurps may not be widely played today but I still see it getting memed a lot for being complicated.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I still see THAC0 memes too, though. I may be biased since I was around when THAC0 came out.

[–] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

In addition to other great information here about THACO, it's worth highlighting that it was upside-down.

Lower rolls were better.

This led to magic items giving both pluses and (good) minuses in order to remain consistent in world. Also some curses and ailments gave (bad) pluses to certain rolls.

It was wildly unintuitive.

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Die in character creation" hi, Traveller!

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sup 😊 I believe that they’ve changed it now. Instead, you get in debt for life 😅 Progress?

[–] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

😂 They changed it to that? I think I'd prefer death 😂

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Yo what about the gurps/carwars crossover combining two of the best games ever to hit print? Also no love for HōL and the cover of the second printing of their expansion book BUTTery HōLsomeness that was such a pita for me to find that I questioned if it even had a physical printing and took years to find the damn thing?

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A lot of cool stuff was left out. No Over the Edge. No Mythender.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

One of my favorite weirdly specific rules is from Dragon Magazine #10. Where it gives rules for being in an orgy for as many days as you have con points, so most characters can get it on for like 2 weeks straight lol:

Orgies. Fighting Men (excluding Rangers and Paladins), Bards,
Thieves, and all Chaotics (excluding Monks). Lusty indulgence in wine,
women, and song. Maximum expenditure is 500 GP per level per night
(250 GP if recuperating and under 50%). A player may orgy continuously
as many days as he has constitution points, but then must rest
for as many days as he orgied. (For effects on Psionic Powers, see Appendix
II.)
[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Not for Rangers for some reason 😂

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I love how Cyberpunk 2013 gets a mention but literally everyone still pretends Cyberpunk 3.0 never happened.

Also, where do Solo TTRPGS and Journaling games fall?

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

That is correct 😂 3.0 never existed.

Solo games are in level 2, in my personal opinion.

[–] roflo1@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago

I’d add it next to bluebooking. I guess?

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Casus Belli as in a reason to declare war or something else entirely? Because if that's it, all Stellaris and Paradox Grand Strategy Games Player know about that one. Or history enthusiasts.

[–] bango@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can't even find results for the last two tiers on google but I"d relly want to know more.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

You can still get a lot of mileage by searching for anything on the iceberg together with "rpg". For example: https://rpgmuseum.fandom.com/wiki/Czege_Principle

[–] azrendelmare@ttrpg.network 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay, I'll bite, why is Linda Blair in here?

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

She modelled for a photo that Tim Bradstreet used as reference in Vampire the Masquerade artwork.

[–] somebody2152@lemmy.wtf 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Makes me feel sad my favorite system isn't well known enough to be here (HERO system, or champions), but it always warms the heart to make fun of old White Wolf stuff some more

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Out of the hero RPGs, I chose Capes! as it’s quite obscure but very interesting. I don’t think you can even find it online 😅 https://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/11/11175.phtml

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh man this is exactly the kind of obscure hard to find thing I try and collect. Happen to have a lead on how to get a physical copy?

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would also love to get one. A friend taught me the game and even he only had the digital version.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

The race is on, and I'll have you know I'm ornery and persistent when it comes to collecting obscure ttrpgs.

[–] Damaskox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I appreciate this picture! Thank you for sharing it!

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you. I loved putting it together 🤓 There’s so much stuff!

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Sorry, I posted a draft version 😶 this is the complete one:

[–] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Doesn’t that nuke all the comments?

[–] Atlas48@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago

you've still got here, I guess?

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Bass playing? What am I missing here?

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Would you like a clue? You can search for “rpg impossible thing before breakfast”.

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

Thank you very much for that, game master. I shall continue my steady decline towards the rpg abyss.

[–] Yora@diyrpg.org 1 points 2 years ago

I only recognize things as down as GNS and Fatal, and those are really just level 3 stuff.

[–] DrippyWaffler@ttrpg.network 1 points 2 years ago

Why is CP2013 so far down? It's great!

[–] Enkrod@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

What... What's wrong with Earthdawn? It's a great game with stunning lore and good mechanics.