The thing that I love about Lemmy is at least it's not as infected with bots as other places. It's the equivalent of going to rancher's market to get my spicy comments and bickering ya know.
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Definitely! I'll look at the upvote counter(stupid me I know) and think to myself 'oh that's not much engagement' and then remind myself that it's actually real people(most likely) and not just bots.
It's much more peaceful and organic than other platforms. I'm glad I removed reddit from my life two years ago. I don't miss it one bit.
the equivalent of going to rancher's market
A few more bugs, way less poison?
I think it’s partly because reddit has become an overflowing bucket of shit where bots accuse bots of being bots and real humans get permabanned for breaking bs rules or saying no-no words.
honestly it's really not
Like "Linux" in linuxsucks101...
I think part of it is that Reddit has gotten so bad that even casual users are noticing that it's basically indistinguishable from any other corporate social media.
Concidentally, as of lately, Reddit has seemed more "dead" to me than usual.
And that's not even counting the egregious "cloned threats" where, within the span of one or a few days, the exact same comments, but with all-different user names, are being copied underneath two headlines with similar topics; or the weird, LLM-written and machine-translated comments that very badly match the topic at hand or the OP they're replying to, something that's especially obvious if you visit non-English-language subs.
There has also been an influx of users on Piefed which might explain why things seem more active on here.
I automatically assume Redditors are bots from some state actor. I've seen enough obvious campaigns that it's impossible for me to trust anymore
Well yeah, and Ghislaine Maxwell was also a Reddit power mod (mod or r/news and apparently some other big subreddits too).
Seems to be unproven https://factually.co/fact-checks/justice/was-ghislaine-maxwell-a-reddit-mod-b79f2a
Could be true, but this suggests weak evidence.
The vast majority of bots, and it's more accurate to say influence operations as real people direct fake accounts with bots, and now chatbots, sophisticated ones for some issues, are working for commercial interests. Trade groups of all types. Any toxic chemical they use has keywords scramble a response to any mention of it. Real agents cycling through accounts backed by bots. AI, actually Indians, in many cases, as they've good english and can work for cheaper.
But the State Actors are getting worse, the US aligned ones exploded in number and visibility after the Venezuela operation I noticed. I'm sure the build up to the next forever war with Iran because Israel first has armies of bots. I've seen some influence operations on lemmy here in regards to that reddit must be overrun by it.
Russian bots have been noted rewriting history on Wikipedia for Baltic and ex-ussr countries recently too. I read about #estonia having to fight to preserve accurate history about Soviet imperialism on Wikipedia.
It was also noticable that contra-US bots were driving polarization leading up to the US election. There were a number of topics that went silent the day after election.
Not sure about divergence, but there are definitely a lot more interesting posts now. I've tried fediverse (kbin) when the reddit API shit happened. I'm a gamer and there weren't many interesting gaming posts at the time so I returned back to Reddit like a week later. This time with the Discord bullshit I gave fediverse another try and it's so much better now. It's still not as many compared to Reddit but at least there are actual content I enjoy scrolling.
When you say 'everything section' do you mean the 'all' section or a specific community? Sorry if there's an obvious answer, I just joined a few days ago & I'm still learning my way around
I'm using Sync (I'm lazy with getting new apps and it hasn't pissed me off yet) and the button is called "Everything". So I guess it's the All section!
I love Sync but be aware that it is no longer being actively developed. It has some bugs that will never be fixed, and might break entirely in the future.
I've been using "Thunder" and so far it's done a pretty wonderful job of things. Very easy to view and scroll on a phone. A lot of options you can set and customize.
Thunder was still not quite what I was looking for last time I tried it. I am very happy with Summit now, personally.
Has the developer confirmed he's dropped the project for good, or is he still just MIA? I know he's gone over a year between updates before, so unless he's announced that he's done, there's still a small possibility of an update in the future.
This is longer than he's ever been MIA for before, this time I think it's about 2 years since the last update, and there are several literally critical bugs. But this is the downside with absentee developers like that, you never know for sure whether it's abandonware or not. But he seems to be actively working on other stuff still so I just don't think Lemmy took off enough in popularity for him to feel like it's worth his time monetarily. Makes sense if this was always more of a business than a passion project, which is the way it appears to be to me.
The least he could do would be to just say that he is done developing the Lemmy app. Just vanishing is a dick move.
Especially when one of the apps payment models is a monthly subscription. I hope most people have cancelled by now, but subscriptions tend to be sticky, which is partly why buisnesses like them so much.
I'm using photon in my mobile browser, but the 'everything' tab as well. Still learning but it's not too steep of a curve. Feels very organic & I love the lack of ads
I'm sure that's what they mean. I scroll with "New/All" and this is a fantastic way to read new stuff you have never heard about BUT the caveat is: this is an enjoyable scroll ONLY after you've developed a good block list of users, instances and communities. Otherwise, you'll get inundated with the few but very vocal and toxic communities that make Lemmy feel like a clone of Reddit/Twitter/etc.

There seem to be more and more comments and I have seen posts with almost 1000 upvotes in top 24h in ALL. It was usually more around the 300.
Bots vs people
You think there are a lot of bots on here? I noticed a few influence agents pushing israeli bullshit, forget the instances. They had a suspiciously large number of votes for them. Others are grinding axes, hard to say which might be influence agents necessarily, but plenty that could be, pushing wrongheaded opinions that when challenged with reasoned arguments reply with personal attacks and obscure the issue with slander. But that is learned behavior from the top down so it could be they just emulate rotten people.
I’m someone who just re-joined after trying out lemmy & kbin a couple years ago then dropping off after a few months. I can say the experience now is a lot better. There’s so much more content and activity.
I still use Reddit for more niche topics but I don’t miss it nearly as much as expected to.
NGL, I got permabaned there in October.. just 2 weeks shy of 15 years.. Found old.lemmy.zip, fell in and fell in love.
Haven't missed Reddit at all.
I keep catching reddit bans for calling Trump a pedophile lol. Really tells you where their moderation is at these days.
I've been noticing a rampant increase in bot farming attempts, so that's at least a signifier that we're definitely becoming popular with the regulars
I decided to look into Lemmy in the last week. You're welcome!
I just subscribed to new communities and i've gotten more involved in Lemmy again. New content yey!
Lemmy has been one of my primary social networks for some time. It is excellent.
Very cool feedback, i hope newcomers enjoy their stay too. It's not perfect but i do hope the fediverse is a fun place whatever fedisoftware you are on. 8)
America Team
Isn't it "Team America"?
Fuck yeah!
They may not have seen that movie but its incredibly correct. :)
I think a lot of it is unfortunately tied to how quiet US politics is, when more outrageous things happen, the worse the lemmy experience becomes.
We are just not the type to put our heads in the sand.
I jump between social networks every few years. My social network path has gone from AOL chat groups, to Yahoo News groups, to Facebook for a few years, to Twitter, to Mastodon, to Reddit.
Last week I decided to test Lemmy out. Best thing I can say about it is that it's not any worse than all the others. Which is a pretty good compliment really, considering the resources and network advantages that all the others have.
It comes and goes here
As more of the world is moving into the #boycottUS movement more people are moving to open source alternatives. I personally wish more people would move to more open source things rather than alternative closed source things that could be sold to a US company.
Exactly. It's like people that move to Bluesky, which is under private control, and then are shocked when abuses start there.
The problem is exactly that social spaces shouldn't be privately owned and a source of profit. Until you address that, the slop hellsites will always wind up that way.
I come for conversation. Granted its just snippets here and there but im not here to got links or media dropped on me without context.