What a needlessly stupid thing it was to put them on a live service project, and what a waste to close it down.
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This is such a horrific mismanagement of a studio it makes me question if the studio itself wanted to make a live service game and bit off more than they could chew. Because if this is on Sony, and it does have Sony written all over it, then they're legitimately worse than EA. It's like a low I didn't even know existed because it would be an astonishing level of incompetence.
Word is this live service push was Jim Ryan's initiative, and he left the company right before it all fell apart.
A few years back when Sony purchased Bungie, they stated they wanted to focus more on live service games. I think they wanted to release 10 live service games over 10 years. That means they need a variety of their studios working on them, even if it isn't their specialization. This is definitely a Sony decision and a stupid one at that.
If only there were some other incredibly highly desired From Software game that people have been shouting at Sony to assign to the Bluepoint team specifically to remake.
You know, an obvious choice with an existing fanbase that would literally open their wallets and tell Sony to take whatever they want in order to play it.
Yeah. I wouldn't mind a Jak and Daxter trilogy remake either.
Add in daxter and X and I'll throw them my wallet.
Throw in a few ratchet and clank games and I'd do unholy things
Fuck yeah, I want the good old anti consumerism OG rachet and clanks.
Playing the og on ps2 again. Hits hard.
Don't even need to remake or remaster. Just make it 60fps, and so many people would buy it again.
I'll never understand why Sony leaves so much money on the table re Bloodborne
It makes me think there must be something more to the story. Bad blood? FromSoft not wanting to make it an exclusive?
Otherwise, I just don't get it either. I'm not a businessman, but that seems as close to risk-free money as you can get.
Why make tens of millions when you can lose hundreds of millions?
I would buy a shadow of the colossus remaster and pay for a DLC for more bosses.
I want a modern Tenchu game too, but I don't think it's going to happen.
I'll take Sekiro 2
I think the reason Sekiro 1 happened was that they started making a Tenchu game and then changed their minds.
Yeah, I've been waiting for a remaster of The Adventures of Cookie & Cream this whole time...
Hey guys, I know you made really good remasters of classic single-player games, but can you make us something nobody on this motherfucking Earth asked for?
Oh wait, we don't want you do do that any more.
Why aren't you making us any money?
NO...
I was hoping for the Demon's Souls remake to get ported to PC as I would love to play the game again. A PC version of the game was included in the same Nvidia leak that showed Helldivers 2 before it was announced. Every showcase, I was wondering where Bluepoint were... And now they went under.
Complete insanity that Sony forced them to do a live service game for the past few years. Bluepoint was practically an art studio, they could've spent the next 20 years just remaking old games and make bank. What were they thinking?
Sony was thinking “money me, money now, money money money, big money, money now”
They're too busy making more money-sink Spider-man movies without Spider-man.
It's Morbin' Time!
Which apparently backfired spectacularly.
Their service game strategy has been a total disaster from start to finish. Good thing the ps6 is delayed so that playstation gamers can hopefully see some exclusivities before the next gen.
this is so insane on its face that the first place my mind goes is, were they about to unionize?
Bluepoint was working on a God of War live-service game until it was canceled early last year.
Maybe this was for the best, if that was their best idea to move forward with. I feel like people are getting tired of cookie-cutter live service games coming out every year.
You can just smell the shitty decision making that some executive went thru. Prolly the same exec that pulled the trigger on the layoffs.
I've been tired of live service games since before fortnite had battle royale.
My main issue with live service games is that I just don't have the fucking time to invest in them.
I've yet to see a game move to live service that didn't just pad out all the busy work and fuck with the pacing of any story element.
Give me a single player experience that I can push up 6 months later and not have to grind to get back to where ever I was.
I don't even know how you'd do that with God of war.
Wow. The whole console space is really going down the drain, isn't it? Disappointing generations, hardware shortages, price increases, stupid live-service initiatives nobody wants, ever more subscriptions, and closing of studios that would usually turn out hits as long as you let them work in peace... Thank god for indie studios, retro consoles, PC gaming and a backlog that will last me three lifetimes.
Yeah, as someone who's mostly been a console peasant my whole life I've found myself gravitating heavily towards the Steam Deck, both for native games and emulators. I have a mid-range PC, but I'm much more likely to sit down and play a game on the TV rather than at a desk. The Steam Machine would have been perfect for me, but I know it's going to cost way more than I'm willing to spend, so I'll be sticking to my Deck, PS5, and PC for the foreseeable future. It seems unlikely I'll ever get a new Nintendo or Sony console at this point and any future hardware upgrades will be PC related.
Crazy. They could have at least put them on a new remake project. I don't understand closing studios that are provenly productive. Replace leadership. Replace directors/leads if they're not proving to lead well or their ideas aren't panning out commercially but don't shutter the whole studio. Like 343 Halo games aren't critical success but they deliver products. Obsidian games aren't selling great currently but they ship products on the regular. Bluepoint could be making smaller games like Twisted Metal. More remakes. Jak and Daxter remakes or sequels. Square Enix get's a lot of flak like every mega publisher but I think they're great for making a bunch of smaller AA games along with big games like Final Fantasy
Hey there I heard you definitely want live service games right? Oh sorry you said remakes? No you must mean live service! /s
Is it viable for a studio like this to just reform under a new name and continue doing what they love?
It happens all the time, but you need startup capital. And a lot of what they did is remaking games (at high quality) that they don't own the rights to.
A studio is only ever as good as its people. Those people will move to other things, sometimes they will group together under a new name. So yes, totally possible, you just might not recognize them if it happens.
I guess the problem is that it would cost a lot to keep paying everyone for however many years it takes until they have a product.
Man, I really loved the Demon Souls Remaster. It was absolutely gorgeous.
The only actually worthwhile studio they owned...
Probably because not enough people are buying PS5s. You all didn't rent a PS5, so now small indie company Sony has to dissolve a studio. It's not the executive's fault, it's the consumer's fault, obviously.
Exactly. It's the gamers who are wrong.
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No Games Station becomes more and more true over time. Trend chasing failures is the new Sony trend.
PS4 was so disappointing to me after 1/2/3 and it's sad to see continued decline.