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[–] Davel23@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Josh Strife Hayes just did a video on classic Everquest:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU1zn2oohkM

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

And his conclusion is wildly different.

[–] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Thanks to fan projects, it's still possible to play EverQuest as it used to be. The latest fan-run classic EverQuest server, Project Quarm, launched on October 1. Like other unofficial fan servers the Al'Kabor Project and Project 1999 before it, Quarm strives to present the game as it existed back in the first couple years of the game's life—warts and all. Unlike Project 99, however, this server will progress through the classic era all the way through the 2002 Planes of Power expansion, seen by many to be the peak of the EQ experience.

Always cool to see fan projects like this. I know there are a few out there but I'm struggling to remember the names of them.

I thought there was one for Ultima Online I saw but that might have just been an article about its official online mode.


The article really seems to be for people who played EverQuest or similar MMOs a while back and are nostalgic about them though

[–] kuoushi@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

UO has a super robust eco system of private shards and server software. It's kind of amazing. Pretty active development on things like ServUO or ModernUO servers. The client has been fully rewritten and actively developed with improvements on ClassicUO. All of these are open source as well.

For servers you have places that function entirely as different eras of UO like the Renaissance shard, or even entirely new content like what's in Outlands.

There's honestly a lot to be found out there and it's really neat.

[–] cyd@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Does it still present the classic UO experience where as soon as you walk five steps into the wilderness, PKs descend on you, kill you in a few hits, and take all your stuff?

[–] Kiernian@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ahh. the terror of walking into a cave and seeing nothing but inky black darkness and four lines of text pop up all at once

       Corp Por

                     Corp Por

                                                   Corp Por


        Corp Por

Always reminds me of this little ditty --

...on regs and runes I drift in the night

any place it gates is right

gate far

gate near

by a dungeon I reappear

well

you don't know

what

we can find

why don't you die for me little newb

on a magic Corp Por ride...

Credit where credit is due -- http://www.digiphobia.com/ultimasongs/html/magic.html

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Well don't go to the graveyard then!

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unpopular opinion, but Dark Age of Camelot was exponentially better en every way than EverQuest.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Of course, but it was also the generation after EQ1 in a lot of ways. It was able to learn from EQ1's release and early months and quickly improve its own game as a result of that.

[–] Ashtear@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's tempting, but I know it would be too much of a time suck. Especially pre-Planes of Power era, after which time spent traveling drops dramatically.

I can't imagine anyone unfamiliar with the game dropping into one of these fan servers, though. Bit of a reputation for not everyone being the nicest people, especially towards new players.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not only that, but the game has a steep and punishing learning curve.

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

For anyone who wants to get into this just know that A) it has aged VERY poorly. There are tons of aspects about the UX that are just terrible and frustrating. And B) it’s better with a group

But if you can get past all that then it’s really fun

[–] peetabix@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love that when Everquest first came out there was no map. You had to make your own hand drawn map to navigate in the game. I'd love that in a RPG today.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I have a nostalgic affection for making my own maps. I remember discovering hidden rooms based on unfilled squares of graph paper, and mapping mazes of twisty corridors, both all alike and all different. I think that translating the digital representation to physical added vividness to the imaginary worlds when they were presented as simple wireframes, 8-bit graphics, or even just text.

Today, I don't have time for it. I would almost certainly end up visiting the same - I'm guessing - half dozen places I could keep in a mental map, decide the game is boring, and play something else. Lazy. Jaded. Spoiled. Whatever - that phase of my development from reading static books, to reading interactive text, simple avatars, now near-photorealistic animations...the phase where I enjoyed the physical crutch for imagination is just gone.

[–] Fauxaly@lemmy.one 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This game was the best, I miss it tons.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Project Lazarus, the best of eq without most of the pain.

I got a monkey off my back I didn't even know I was carrying for 20 years.

[–] Umbraveil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Many fond memories with this one. But if I could go back and experience one game for the first time again, I'd have to go with Gemstone III.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Oh how I miss the days of Evercrack.

[–] EtherealMoon@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I played EQ in that era and I absolutely love playing Project 99... to a point. It ends up with the same problem that every older online game seems to have: all the veterans that never left act like they own the place, and take it way too seriously.

If I do go back to P99 it will just be to level a character up until I get bored. There's lots of essence to EQ that you just don't get in modern MMORPGs; mostly because content is difficult to solo, working with others makes your entire life easier, and everyone is struggling together. I've had so many good conversations with people while camping in Blackburrow and Guk and the Karanas and so many places. I recommend it to anyone for that.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Asheron’s call also still lives through third party servers. I always like it better.

[–] ParkedInReverse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

There isn't any AC2 though is there?

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

Nahhh all yours

[–] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

John Smedley is a piece of shit. Thanks for ruining multiple MMOs and staining the wonderful memories I shared with so many other adventurers.