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[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 71 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Seems like nonsense to me to change time every six months

[–] dpunked@feddit.de 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Its rubbish and we should just stay in summertime. Yet another daylight hour stolen in the evening

[–] Skasi@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

What the hell, why not stay in standard time? I don't like having to get out of bed while it's still dark outside. It's already bad with everything being dark outside at 8am in winter, doesn't need to be made even worse.

[–] dpunked@feddit.de 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the morning and while I am at work I don’t really care for the conditions outside. By 8 its daylight here no matter the summer or wintertime. But what I care for is going outside in the evening, doing sports in the forest, go cycling and enjoy nature. Its hard doing that when it is dark when I finish working. Other geographic regions might prefer winter time, I personally prefer sommertime

[–] Skasi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the morning and while I am at work I don’t really care for the conditions outside.

Wow really? Because when I was younger I hated waking up in winter when it was still dark outside and having to go to school. I'm assume my classmates did too. If school time doesn't change and the clock is 1 hour forward in winter, then it would be like standing up EVEN earlier.

So I guess as a person you also don't mind much doing night shifts, is that right?

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[–] PetteriSkaffari@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

When we would permanently go to summer time, I will do everything one hour later than now.

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[–] Angry_Badger@lemmynsfw.com 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just to be pedantic, as I found it really interesting when I realised, it's actually 5 months winter time and 7 months summer.

[–] danielton@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the US states that still do this nonsense, it's 8 months on daylight saving time (summer time), and just four months on so-called "standard time." We should just stay on summer time all year at this point.

[–] ChronosWing@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

We were so close to being rid of it last year. The Senate unanimously Approved the "The Sunshine Protection Act" which would of gotten rid of the fall back period we experience in November. But Congress never brought it to a vote so it never became law.

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[–] i_am_not_a_robot@feddit.uk 45 points 2 years ago

Yes. I'm not particularly bothered which timezone we stay in, just pick one.

[–] mrfriki@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Should have ended some 20 years ago.

[–] redballooon@lemm.ee 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Gonna raise that to whenever lightbulbs were common in households.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 2 years ago

I fucking hate the changing of the clock for the season. I wish it was banned across the planet. It's stupid and statistically shows it's bad for traffic, deadly to older people, especially men, and generally bad for businesses.

[–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, we should stay at winter time.

[–] Skasi@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I think you mean Standard Time?
Winter time is when the clock is set back one additional hour, ie -2h when compared to Summer Time (a.k.a. Daylight Saving Time).

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

We call standard time winter time here. I just complained about it to my wife yesterday, that we are NOT switching to winter time. We are switching back to standard time.

But everybody calls it winter time.

[–] candybrie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's weird that it's standard time considering more of the year is spent in summer time.

[–] Skasi@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

It's not weird considering that historically it has been the standard time and only later the daylight saving time idea (aka summer time) was introduced. Plus on the equator you don't really need them as such and on the southern hemisphere they'd be the opposite.

[–] IndiBrony@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes please. Permanent DST would be nice. I hate it being pitch black at 4pm. Not to mention adjusting sleeping patterns.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Wait, is it not next week?

I do agree that we should end it, and I think most people agree. My part of the world (BC, Canada) is ready to drop it and it is waiting for the US states in our time zone to push it through their gridlocked politics. There's growing pressure to just give up on the US and just do it ourselves. Last I heard, there was bipartisan support in the US to also drop it, but there's always some other mess to clean up or some other partisan thing that gets stuffed into the bill.

As for winter time vs. summer time, I really do not care. Both options will hurt some people and help others.

Pick either one and stick with it

[–] Heggico@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

EU was last night/today (for me), US and Canada is first sunday of november right?

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Ah makes sense, even weirder that we do it on different days.

What's the public sentiment like in the EU, are people close to dropping it?

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's being discussed but there's no agreement yet. The main debate is over whether to choose the same one (summer vs winter) for the whole EU. If we do, countries at the geographic extremes like Spain vs Finland will get shafted. If we don't and allow each country to pick one (or a completely new timezone even) we could end up with weird fragmented time zones where neighboring countries are all over the place.

We do agree for the most part that it needs to be dropped.

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[–] bignate@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 years ago

This is my favourite part of the whole ridiculous parade. For a good two weeks or so all my meetings with US colleagues are just chaos.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 3 points 2 years ago

You guys need to just do it. Some moron goes "won't someone think of the children!!1! (Except massacres)" and then we never do it. Canada doing it might actually push us to change.

[–] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I prefer standard time.

If anything, it should be inverse. I want more sunlight during winter years.

We all should just move to Arizona where they don't follow DST.

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No, figuring out which of my clocks is fucked was a nice tradition, and now I also get to manually restart my poorly written python daemons.

But really, yes, we should.

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[–] the16bitgamer@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For whatever reason I read time as tires. And I'm like. No this is stupid the roads would be damaged.

Then I reread it 2-3 times then I got it. And I agree we need to stop changing our clocks.

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[–] Oneeightnine@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My youngest has been awake since 5am send help.

[–] bignate@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

I'm fine with keeping the time change every so often as long as they can program my 2-year old alarm clock to also give me an extra hour of sleep when it happens.

[–] Trippin@feddit.nl 7 points 2 years ago

I don't really care which one, but end this nonsense. Switching every 6 months is so last century

[–] Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago

No I really enjoy it being dark at 4pm. /s

[–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 6 points 2 years ago

Yes we should end winter

[–] clemdemort@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yes I don't see the point besides creating global confusion and making me Chang the hour on my alarm

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[–] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 years ago

Yes, I can live with UTC, GMT, Pacific, a single global timezone. I don't care at this point - just stop making me feel out of wack twice a year!

[–] szczuroarturo@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I couldnt care less honestly. We live in the 21st century and All my clocks switch automaticly and thats all i care about

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It should have ended years ago. It costs money, but worse, it also kills people.

The EU has decided to drop the switch, and asked the members to decide whether they want to stay at CET (Central Europen Time) or CEST (Central European Summer Time). That was many years ago. Nothing happened.

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[–] LadyLikesSpiders@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I hate changing the time, but I'll be honest, as a night owl, I kinda love how early it gets dark

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No wonder I feel like I missed an hour of sleep. I never remember when this shit happens now that every clock I own is connected to the internet and changes automatically.

That's really the only thing I hate about it. If we didn't do it, eventually it would be dark at noon.

[–] elint@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In my country, we "fall back" in the fall and get an extra hour of sleep. Springtime is when we lose an hour. Is it the opposite where you are?

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[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't care. I am totally fine with switching time

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[–] elscallr@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I didn't change my clocks back, I think that happens next week for me, but I'm over the shit. I'd love it if we could just decide to stop doing it.

However I don't want to be the developer that deals with that change.

[–] TheFerrango@lemmy.basedcount.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Keep this forever and just skip summer

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