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    [–] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 225 points 2 years ago (27 children)

    KDE: Welcome to Linux. Do you like the UI of Windows? Well we have an excellent offering for you if that’s your choice. There’s also other DEs that you may select from if that’s your choice.

    Windows: Here’s an ad bitch, fuck your choice.

    [–] dan@upvote.au 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I wish Microsoft kept Windows as a paid product, instead of making it effectively free (with things like free upgrades from older versions) and sticking ads all over the place.

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Um Windows 11 Home costs 145€ from ms directly... Free updates yeah, but I'm guessing that's so people aren't stuck without updates eventually.

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    [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 83 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    Shouldn’t you lose your linux membership card for something like this?

    [–] RoseRose56@lemmy.world 52 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Linux police officers come into your house, and they take your membership!

    [–] badbytes@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago (3 children)
    [–] mateomaui@reddthat.com 36 points 2 years ago

    damn y’all don’t fuck around

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    [–] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    "This incident has been reported."

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    [–] milkjug@lemmy.wildfyre.dev 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    In Soviet Russia, Arch BTW use you!

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    [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

    Chicken isn't vegan?

    [–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 55 points 2 years ago

    Yeah, Windows does really like to copy Plasma, don't they?

    [–] gkd@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Oh wow, I’m glad to see there’s other people who are reminded of Plasma by Win 11. As someone who never installed or used it the first time I saw someone using it I made a comment about them using Linux. Until I realized…

    [–] neveraskedforthis@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Microsoft even copied KDE's motto "Simple by default, powerful when needed" in their Windows 11 announcement.

    [–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 38 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    How is that legal?

    eeh, right, MS's lawier army vs. KDE dev team. Right by money.

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    [–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 47 points 2 years ago

    This is hilarious. It really cut me deep. I don't think I've seen Harold used in the Drake format like this either. The look of dejected shame is priceless.

    [–] Donkter@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (22 children)

    Linux users realizing Windows is fine.

    [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Windows is not “fine” aside from all the non-UI stuff, they’re UI is annoying and slow to me, they moved things behind extra clicks/commands to make it “clean”- stuff I actually use.

    And then there’s the whole tracking usage to drop adds in your notification thing… which is a privacy nightmare.

    [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    I mean I'm cheering for Linux adoption too, but I've never received an ad beyond the initial install crapware app stubs. I do a sweep on the system settings, clean the junk, and I'm off to the races.

    For the unsuspecting users, the privacy concerns are quite bad though.

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    [–] oo1@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

    +1

    i have to use microshite crap every day.
    It outdoes oracle at generating curse words.
    and it gets worse. i'd take windows 2000 or nt4 over whatever shit they force on me at work.

    [–] seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I got a goddamn pop-up ad for an XBox controller. That really says all you need to know. When there are advertisements in the operating system, the operating system is fired.

    [–] Metatronz@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I loved it when windows recently started giving me Xbox achievements (aka ads for Xbox) notifications just for playing any PC game on my computer. Like I'm trucking along, playing a steam game, and Xbox game bar shit, just has to wake up from its slumber to say: we randomly noticed you played something on this computer! Have you considered Xbox today?

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    [–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Tbh, I thought Windows was fine too, until I had to use it last summer.

    [–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    I installed it recently in a VM for something and my first thought was "what the fuck?". My last proper Windows installation was 7 and W11 is barely recognizable. The amount of preinstalled garbage alone really shocked me. The system menus have become even more convoluted too and I actually seriously struggled to find various settings. I remember the first attempt at re-categorizing the system settings in I think it was Vista but this is even worse.

    Really made me appreciate Plasma even more.

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    [–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago

    Is most of the UI fine? Yes, absolutely. It's just the rest of the OS that sucks.

    [–] MrBubbles96@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Depends. what version of Windows? 10? I can agree for the most part that yeah, it's fine. Most users loved 7, I...never paid it much mind (mostly because it was good, i guess? Got nothing bad to say about it, at least) and 8 was...Windows 8.

    Windows 11 tho? Eh....the UI's ok. I like it better than 10's, at least. Ish. But whose bright idea was it to limit the number of items in the context menu? Or to hide the ribbon that, again, shows you more options? Or basically force ya to make a Microsoft account to even use the thing? (there's apparantly a way to revert some of these things via messing with the Registry) Like, Windows 10 was fine like you said, dunno why 11 needed such drastic changes. And that's without mentioning ads or the habit Windows has of reverting some of the setting you set after an update (tho that was a thing since 10, tbf. Still annoying)

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    [–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    It was fine on Windows 7. Now you can't open the start menu without 5 ads jumping into your face or open any app without a popup promoting a Microsoft alternative (note for the whoosh people, this is hyperbole). It's even worse than the pop-up/pop-under phase of web ads.

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    [–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 2 years ago

    you get ads in kde plasma?

    [–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The UI of Windows 11 is fine, at least visually. Windows 8-10 were mostly just ugly. When it comes to configuration options, they lose even against Plasma from a couple years ago.

    I have a Mac like UI btw., there is no chance of confusing my Plasma with any Windows :P

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    [–] 0oWow@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Did KDE get a recent makeover? Last I saw, the window decoration still defaults to half rounded and half square. Devs can't decide which one they like.

    [–] backhdlp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago

    Next makeover is in February with Plasma 6.

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    [–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    make it like windows 2000 and i won't have a problem

    [–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago

    And you can do that with kde.

    [–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    How do you even not notice?

    [–] marcos@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (14 children)

    He though that new widget with all the advertisements was really nice, and was on the way to thank whoever cleaned his system removing 3/4 of the items on the start menu.

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