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"In China, BYD is currently building 4,000 1.5MW charging stations across the country, with plans to roll out 20,000 by the end of this year.

Although not quite as ambitious, a BYD spokesperson for the European side of the business told me that the company is targeting 2,000 1.5mW Flash Charging stations across Europe before 2026 comes to a close."

I'm fascinated by the economics of this. How does BYD make money on this? Do they run the chargers at a profit? How much will this work out per km for drivers compared to diesel or gasoline?

People think of BYD as a budget car marker, but this to support its luxury brand Denza. The Denza Z9 GT EV has a range of 1,036 km (644 miles) on these chargers. I'm guessing having the best charagers is going to be seen as premium/luxury too.

'Ready in 5, full in 9' — this Chinese EV charges to 70% in only 5 minutes, has a 644-mile range, and it's coming to Europe in April

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[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

1.5 Milliwatts? Are these meant for ant cars?

[–] 69420@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

You'll need at least three times more power than this.

[–] DrunkenPirate@feddit.org 4 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

ROFL a typical marketing stunt.

Here in Germany that won‘t work as the bottleneck is the connection to the power grid. Especially when it comes to high power demands. You need thick cables for those power volumes. And those cables do not just arrive over night magically.

The specialists for those connection are rare and we have a hige waiting queue until 2030 for solar parks, battery parks, and some new electricity stations. Was the high demand foreseeable? Yes. Unfortunately in capitalism scarcity increases value which is good for the stakeholder/ doormen of utility companies.

[–] fahfahfahfah@lemmy.billiam.net 2 points 41 minutes ago

Feels like you could potentially partially mitigate that by having on-site batteries that “slow charge” from the grid, and then fast charge the cars.

[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

Perhaps. All I care is more options so people stop buying Teslas when they realize the shitbox is like two toasters tied together with twine compared to what China is doing with EVs

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The way I read it is that it's the dedicated charging stations in public areas, as opposed to charging points running off a domestic energy supply in the driveway.

With that, most of the CCS T2 tethered chargers have big chonky boi cables, so much so that they're quite unwieldy without the gantries holding some of them up.

Fast chargers are brilliant mind. I use a 75KW charger on a trunk road next to a coffee shop, and it's generally gone from 30% to 80% in 25-35 mins - enough time to get a coffee, read some text messages, get into the headspace of hitting the road again and disconnecting it. Thing is, the fast chargers aren't far off petrol prices at 70-85p/KWh.

Something like a five minute charge would be quite something, perhaps makes long distance EV travelling more comfortable.

[–] DrunkenPirate@feddit.org 2 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

Something like a five minute charge would be quite something, perhaps makes long distance EV travelling more comfortable.

Or the batteries are getting bigger (which they do). But in this scenario there won’t be a business and money to earn. Many people would fuel their car with cheap solar power produced by theirselves.

[–] lemmysmash@beehaw.org 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Well, 1.5 milliwatts doesn't sound a lot... But seems like for TECH(sic!)radar somehow it does.

[–] Lugh@futurology.today 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yes, it should be 1.5 MW. I corrected the headline.