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[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

In lore it says humans and Pokemon used to be indistinguishable. So probably yeah

[–] sheepishly@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And then in Legends Arceus suddenly humans barely understood how to interact with Pokemon barely a few hundred years before modern times. What genius came up with that nonsense?

[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] sheepishly@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel like they've been forgoring since around gen 7. There's been a weird shift in how the relationship between humans and Pokemon has been written for a while now and I don't like it. But that's a schizopost for another time.

[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah I think the main issue is that not even Gamefreak has their facts straight.

[–] at_an_angle@lemmy.one 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Didn't humans also marry and breed with Pokémon?

[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

...I try not to think about that part.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

I've seen a LOT of visual evidence if this...

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

So are you saying there's a change of marrying vulpix or eevee?

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

No, as regular animals exist in the Pokemon world, too. The original games had cats and dogs in some houses. The cartoon showed non Pokemon birds flying alongside pidgeys and such.

The original games also made the claim that Pokemon came from space. They only showed up after a meteorite.

[–] klaus_the_fish@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought they retconned that in later seasons of the anime though.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Which part? That Pokemon came from space or the inclusion of common animals like dogs and cats? I didn't even know the show continued beyond my high school years until I saw all the talk about the show finally ending recently so I personally have no idea what they changed but the recent games I have played make the origin of the pokemon more mystical.

[–] porotoman99@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

As far as I'm aware, the inclusion of real-world animal species in the older anime and games was due to the lack of variety in existing Pokemon species. The last time I know they referred to a real animal was in 2016, where the Pokedex entry for Raichu says it can knock out an Indian elephant. More recently, Raichu's Pokedex entry was updated to instead say it can incapacitate a Copperajah.

[–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Can you put normal animals in a pokeball or is the tech bound to the specific alien dna of pokemons and can humans be put in pokeballs, and how dos this all fit in human trafficking technology?

[–] darq@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pokeballs get really sinister when you think about them too deeply.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Pokemon is glorified dog fighting.

But wait, it gets worse. Do Pokemon experience time inside the pokeballs? It's so, they're essentially spend 99% of their life in prison.

If not, then nearly all their life is spent fighting.

[–] kubica@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

Yes. Because answering "no" is more troublesome.

[–] FedFer@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 2 years ago

I thought Pokémon were not animals at all but their own beings separate from the animal kingdom

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think they have normal animals as well as Pokemon in the Pokemon world though.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

There are a handful of shots of regular fish in underwater scenes but that's probably due to lazy animators that didn't give a shit about the franchise they were working on.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Eh, pretty much only the first seasons of the anime reference non-pokemon animals. All the media for the past 20 years only mention other Pokemon when talking about food, prey, etc.

[–] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

Pokemon aren't "animals", they're kami.

[–] Anamana@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

And the gods are the trainers

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 3 points 2 years ago

A true philosopher

[–] erie09@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Today, we hunt he most dangerous Pokémon

[–] sock@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

all humans are animals

all dogs are animals

therefore humans are dogs

not a very good argument imo

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago

but that's just straight up not the same logic at all

[–] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

All humans are animals All dogs are animals Not all animals are dogs Not animals are humans But all the animals in modern Pokemon are Pokemon So the question is Does animal == Pokemon If so human are Pokemon But if animal != Pokemon Then humans != Pokemon and human == animal

[–] Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

Aren't there non-pokemon animals in pokemon?