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hold up
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Unless their hold is in their castle!
any, I'm gonna say the Fortress of Solitude from Superman

a 1950s school building. they were built like castles. have wide open lawns and high towers. windows were at least a story above grade, and the glass had that mesh embedded inside.
any windows or doors that are at grade can easily be barricaded or already are with high grade steel cages.
bonus if there's an internal courtyard that can be used as a field for growing crops, water retention area, and just an outdoor exercise area.
schools already have a cafeteria and kitchen, showers, fitness and entertainment, first-aid and medical, an entire library, science/biological labs. many schools have also been retrofitted with solar panels as well.
a school is really the best place to hold up for any kind of natural disaster.
Nuclear powered carrier ship in the middle of the ocean.
You're goods run out of supplies eventually.
You know how to run those?
I bet there's a manual somewhere on the ship.
Yeah probably, it's only thermonuclear science
How hard can it be?
A shopping mall, so I can pick up a flashlight, duct tape some jewelry on it and use it as a lightsaber
Any location? An automated Oneill cylinder.
I got an old abandoned insane asylum on the top of a hill next to a naturally occurring spring kinda near me. You really couldn't ask for a better location. Farm on the roof.
There was a movie/TV show where the character was hunkered down in a wind turbine. Always thought it was a clever idea.
Look, I need to spend my efforts on the toxicity and climate collapse apocalypse. I would WELCOME zombies at this point.
Assuming zombies are incapable of any higher reasoning, somewhere only accessible by climbing up a ladder or rope.
It works in PZ, it might work IRL.
Lemme grab my sledgehammer.
An island? Seems like a great way to isolate yourself from the masses
I don't know, the old zombie flick 'Shock Waves' (1977)... Not typical zombies but it made the island approach seem a little less viable to me. It's still better than my default choice of a mall.
World War Z, the book, proved this wrong.
Just any yard with a distinct lack of my milkshakes.
Costco.
Small number of secure entrances. A lifetime supply of batteries and solar kits. Tons of shelf stable food and drink. Clothing. Tacky home decor to make the apocalypse feel more homey.
It would be great.
Fully stocked pharmacy, comfy mattresses, tvs and video games, car batteries and inverters to run the entertainment, and sometimes even citrus trees to prevent scurvy.
Downside is that without power to the building you have a lot of work to do to dump all the fresh food before it stinks up the place. That dairy cooler alone would get disgusting real quick.
luckily they have it all on pallets ready to go for you
It would be great if there wasn't thousands of other people in your city who had the exact same idea.
Billionaire’s bunker island. Be the security guy with a gun that realizes that money doesn’t matter when civilization falls.
You know what's cool about bunkers? They have fresh air intakes.
You know what's cool about me? I know how to use expanding foam insulation.
Good point. But there should be a protocol to prevent innocent victims. Perhaps some way to clearly advertise that the bunker is free of infection by any original Epstein class owners...
Water, concrete, metal; halothane, sevo or carfent and naloxone if you want them alive.
You can find air intakes with smoke or microphone array cameras. Construction equipment is fleet keyed if you want to live out your Apocalypse dream and bulldoze or excavate.
Checkmate Zuckerberg
"Secure" as in "fortify it against zombies and potentially other threats"
Or as in "I can get to it and lay some sort of claim to it"
Because if it's the former, we probably need to put some restrictions on the scenario. That's really the hard part of this and we're just assuming we can do it, and your best bet is probably to secure as big of an area as possible. A city, a country, a whole hemisphere, or hell, the entire world or the solar system if we're being really silly.
If we're going with the latter, where we find a building or property of some kind and call "dibs" and the rest of it is up to us
I think a tech school is a pretty good bet, at least thinking of my local tech schools.
They have some fully stocked workshops with pretty much any tools and materials you could need- carpentry, plumbing, automotive, electrical, etc.
Maybe some kind of medical program, so probably a decent amount of meds and first aid equipment, in addition to whatever is in the nurse's office.
A culinary program, so you have a well equipped kitchen and probably a decent amount of food on-hand.
Maybe it even has some sort of agricultural program with some farming equipment, maybe even some ready-to-go planted crops and possibly livestock.
Most schools are fairly secure with limited entrances and locking doors often they have backup generators and maybe even solar these days (odds are any school with a decent electrical program at least has a few solar panels kicking around somewhere) and you have the tools and maybe the materials there to further fortify it as needed.
And it probably has some pretty beefy fire suppression systems since you have teenagers playing with welders and industrial stoves/ovens.
Some college campuses might be as good or better for the same reasons, with the added benefits of there probably being some purpose-made living quarters, but they're usually less compact, which has its plusses and minuses, more land to grow crops and such but harder to secure.
And if the apocalypse hits while school is in session, you have a bunch of young, hopefully reasonably-healthy people already on-hand to do some of the hard work if like me you're not quite as spry as you used to be.
Walmart or similar has food, tools, guns, ammo, chemicals, and the building can be secured via steel shutters.
Yeah but the materials you have to work with are a little limited. At least around me, Walmart doesn't carry much in the way of stuff like lumber, pipe, or other building materials, and there's gonna be some gaps in the tools available, I don't think most Walmarts carry welders around me, and even if they do you certainly wouldn't be able to get the gases you need for MIG/TIG welding there, and you might want that if you, for example, need to repair those steel shutters.
And most Walmarts around me actually don't carry guns.
And you can't grow too much food on a parking lot, you can try to work with containers and potting soil of course, but odds are a school is gonna have more land you can easily convert to a food plot or maybe even the plumbing parts to get some kind of hydroponics system going.
A yacht. It's got solar power, water desalination, can get to uninhabited islands
Immediate suicide for me, I'm afraid.
It entirely depends on what kind of zombies.
As long as they aren't evil magic zombies, I think the zombie threat is overrated.
As magic keeps those muscles moving, dehydration, infections, rigor mortis, and decaying flesh don't really matter. After all, the whole point of magic is to violate the laws of physics and chemistry. With the other types though, decaying flesh does matter, which means that the problem will solve itself within a few days. Just keep the doors locked and windows closed in the meanwhile.
If you happen to be outdoors camping when the outbreak occurs, you don't really have any doors and windows to keep you protected. If you have enough food to keep on camping for a few more days, you might be fine. After all, zombies are in the city, where there are lots of people. You're out in the woods, so you might miss the whole zombie apocalypse when you come back home a week later.
The larger threat is based on if they are virus zombies, and not living-dead zombies. To your point, living-dead zombies will just deteriorate are die off. But virus zomies have a chance of still being able to survive for long periods of time. There's also increased threat depending on how the virus is transmitted, it's lifespan outside the body, mutations, so forth.
The way viral zombies are depicted in movies and games, they seem to lack basic survival insights. That’s going to make them vulnerable to dehydration, which will stop their conquest within a few days. Infected wounds are the next problem they’ll face if they somehow manage to drink enough water.
I speculate that in a real world zombie apocalypse scenario the zombies will probably be just one war crime out of many, Half Life 2 style, so it must be assumed that if you manage to fortify a location against zombies, that fortification is probably getting noticed by a drone and bombed or similar after not too long. Therefore instead of holing up, it would be a better strategy to focus on offense instead of defense in some way.
I live next to the regional hospital, I'll probably be one of the first to turn into a zombie.
a bunker, completely underground and zombies cant get to you like in resident evil.
Where's safe? Where's familiar? Where can I smoke?
The Winchester!
Surely this is the only answer?!
On a tropical island somewhere. It might take a while to clear the whole island, but after that, it's a pretty good way to ride out the apocalypse...
An island in the Stockholm archipellago.
Since we assume that you can secure any location picked, any location would be safe, you just need ground to grow crops and freshwater to drink.