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Protection Ploy (infosec.pub)

submitted 1 day ago by pEg@startrek.website to c/memes@lemmy.world

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[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

If you're in the US and need help with resources for your child, look for your local Cub Scout pack or similar organization.

[–] Draegur@lemmy.zip 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

If politicians REALLY wanted to protect children,

They proceed to mix chlorine with bleach, stand up on a chair, put the rope around their own neck, aim the barrel up through the roof of their own mouth, and squeeze.

all in a room locked from the inside.

[–] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 74 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here's an alternative, so you don't have to use the groomer:

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 23 hours ago

Kind of fits with the role of government though

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

fighting pornography

Fuck off, prude.

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 12 hours ago

For real, the fight for protecting kids against porn already won. Lazy ass parents are just too lazy in their asses to be bothered to understand how to use parental controls or have a conversation with their kids about porn.

Also, you're never going to keep teenagers from porn. They will always find a way.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 23 hours ago

EVERYONE TURN ON YOUR PORNOGRAPHS

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

do not "fight against pornography", people should have freedom

It confuses me how viewing porn is 18+ rather than being restricted behind age of consent (or even a bit before it). Being allowed to fuck but not to watch a video of people doing it (or even just see a picture of genitals) is total bullshit.

[–] Buage_@piefed.social 1 points 14 hours ago

That's so real..

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 day ago

What do you mean "fighting pornography" is their whole excuse

[–] Virtvirt588@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fighting against pedophilia

How exactly is fighting against a mental illness going to solve anything? The majority of cases right now, Epstein, et all, are rapists not pedophiles in that context.

Pedophilia isn't going to magically dissapear, alas it should be less scrutinised such that those who are I'll are helped. Rape is a crime which should be fighted against, an illness is not a crime.

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 23 hours ago

Let's not split hairs over rhetorics, we also call it "fight against cancer" and even though I'd love to see that bitch jailed it'll most likely never happen.

You're generally right of course, we have to choose the right way to fight different kinds of evil.

[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's the same government trying to bring child labor back?

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 23 hours ago

Only in the US, right?

…right?

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Using this meme template for this message is absolutely wild when drake is a groomer.

Edit: idk maybe it fits cause he is labeled as the ‘government’ and we all know what they’re up to.

[–] trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Every fascist wants to 'protect the children' if he's not in power.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 day ago

fighting against pedophilia

You mean like gay conversion therapy?

[+] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

When education and talking with kids actually seems to be accomplishing something, I'll agree that it's a good solution.

We're talking about ID verification because everything listed in the first part of this meme has failed (including, most importantly, depending on parental oversight) and we're now at a point where the consequences require immediate regulation.

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Nice try with that "we need to do this to protect the kids" nonsense, but the baddies have already tipped their hands. They want this so they can mass surveil and track people they don't like, to put real names and faces to every social media post, every purchase, every chat message. They want the power to silence opposition before it can become organized. They want control. This has nothing to do with protecting children. It never does.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

They already have all of that.

They did when you adopted smart phone and smart home technology, same with everyone else. They have it for most people because most people knowingly use corporate social media sites like TikTok, Facebook. Twitter/X, Bluesky, Threads, Instagram, and the like, and those are collecting data too.

We know this objectively because the FBI just released footage in the Guthrie case that shouldn't exist, and definitely shouldn't be hanging out in a government database either.

You're not protecting yourself or anyone by allowing these systems to access kids without any regulation whatsoever. I appreciate that it makes you feel good to think that you are, though.

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They already have all of that.

They have the beginnings of it. The foundation of it. They don't have it all yet though. They're never satisfied with the level of control they have at any given time. They will continue to pursue more sweeping, more draconian measures until they either destroy themselves or incite the oppressed to do it for them. It's like saying the ultra rich aren't going to fuck us over for more money because they already have so much money.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world -3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You're wrong.

But that's okay. Thank you for the reply. I hope you a nice day.

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You're wrong.

Lol yikes. Well uhh, have a nice day as well I guess.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Thank you.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 hours ago

Not all. Government-proof systems (Signal and other E2EE things, federated things, many open source projects, etc.) are (mostly) not illegal.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Nah. We haven't even tried any of that stuff. We talked about trying that stuff and then didn't and skipped right to mass surveilance.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

That is factually incorrect.

It was exposed in 2014 that FB was running experiments on its users by tinkering with their news feeds, so culturally, conversations around this have been happening for at least twelve years, and tech addiction has been a known problem for at least a decade. These products are designed to be addictive, induce mental illness, and foment rage bait because it keeps eyes glued to ads, and the corporate media providers know this.

Now, we live in a world where it's causing widespread mental illness in young people, because its effects are more pronounced in developing brains. This is a public health issue, and it's not going to be solved with whoo whoo solutions like expecting parents to actually parent, because we can see from the last 5-10 years that this 'solution' is ineffective.

Regulation is necessary, whether it's ID verification, or banning cell phone sales to kids, or even limited solutions like disallowing cell phone use in schools.

[–] cJni5di01n@lemmy.org 3 points 15 hours ago

Regulation is necessary

I agree, but that regulation should be applied to the companies that are causing the harm, not to the public.

[–] BranBucket@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Why should the regulation allow for more surveillance of users and data collection instead of outlawing the practices and algorithms that lead to many of these issues on the first place?

They've been trying to tie devices to identities for years now, and doing so allows them greater leeway to fuck with people's heads, to spread propaganda more effectively, and to target dissent against themselves and their allies. This doesn't protect people from having their mental illnesses exacerbated, it just allows their disfunctions to be shaped in the direction tech billionaires want them to be.

In my opinion, anything that uses an algorithm to drive engagement by presenting material designed to play on the emotions of the user should be outlawed outright. Video ads and paid content should be identified with title cards at the begining and end. Images and posts should be marked with headers and footers that make it clear this is paid content.

If the user decides to subscribe or block certain content, that's the user's choice. But the timeline should always be based on time and date or activity and never influenced by paid advertisements or engagement.

And that's the bare minimum. I still consider that somewhat risky to interact with. If I had my druthers Facebook, Xitter, Reddit, and the rest would all be shuttered and taken offline next week.

[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don't they just dwant to implement this survilance because they are too many bots and advertizers want prove their adds go to human, so meta & co are pushing for it in the guise of protecting kids?

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I read that somewhere too. It's also been suggested that SOME countries want to use it to actually do something about the Russian bots that interfere in their elections, but I don't know.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Uh....