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Starting in August, installing APKs from unverified developers will require a new procedure called Advanced Flow. It involves enabling developer mode, rebooting the device, and waiting 24 hours with biometric verification.

After that, you choose: allow the APK installation for 7 days or indefinitely. The procedure is a one-time process and applies to all versions of Android.

Will the 24-hour wait stop you from installing APKs outside the store?

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[–] webkitten@piefed.social 5 points 1 hour ago

Or you just turn off system updates and keep using the flow you have now.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (2 children)

Do you have to go through this procedure for every APK or just once?
If it's for every side loaded app, does this include updates of already installed APKs?
That would make the system actual more insecure

[–] kamayatu24@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

As far as I understand, this is done for every application installed. Every time. And it seems that the certificates are not unlimited and they will have to be renewed.

A similar system is already present on iOS.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 1 points 40 minutes ago

That's what I'm actually afraid of
Hopefully Linux can soon step up and fill the gap.

On a site note:
I've pre-ordered the new jolla phone in hopes to have pretty much a Linux phone with Android app compatibility layer.
But since my pre-order I haven't heard anything about it anymore and I can't find a blog/news page providing any information about progress or something.
Maybe people in this thread are similarly inclined to Linux phones and have a link for me...?
I've already sent a mail to Jolla about that - but just today...

Wanna give a source for that? Everything I read said that after the 24 hour scare screen, you could optionally enable third party installation permanently. Literally nothing about certificates expiring. Where are you even getting this from?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If it's like existing hurdles, once, like enabling developer mode. I don't think updates or subsequent apps will require more hoops.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 1 points 46 minutes ago

I don't think so either, but at the current level off stupidity all around, I would like to have something at face value

[–] Noctambulist@lemmy.world 23 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

PSA: GrapheneOS is not affected by this, one of many good reasons to use it.

[–] Havatra@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Will other custom ROMs still allow for sideloading? Like PostmarketOS, e/OS/, LineageOS etc.?

[–] berty@feddit.org 9 points 2 hours ago

Yes, custom ROMs are not affected, this is just Google bullshit.

[–] Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, and PostmarketOS isn't even Android

[–] Havatra@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 hours ago

Right, honestly forgot about that. Not something I use personally, but hear a lot of buzz about. Anyhow, could a good thing be then to support companies like Fairphone, who sells their phones with e/OS/ already installed? I'll try and recommend it to my friends, if that is the case.

[–] kamayatu24@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

GraphenOS is supported only by Pixel. So we're waiting for a port to other devices! Although I think it's impossible, since only Pixel has a security chip.

[–] foreverknew@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] kamayatu24@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Oh, that's pretty cool. I think I'll consider switching to GrapheneOS in the coming months.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 38 points 4 hours ago (6 children)

It's nice that an American company will enforce a 24-hour cooling-off period for the installation of a few 1s and 0s on a device I already own.

They wouldn't do this for the purchase of a firearm.

This biting satirical take is brought to you by a disillusioned Android user seriously thinking about switching to an iPhone. If a walled garden is inevitable I might as well go where most stuff gets developed for first.

[–] teft@piefed.social 2 points 1 hour ago

They wouldn’t do this for the purchase of a firearm.

A little more than 1/4 of states (14) have a mandatory waiting period for buying guns ranging from 3 days to 30 days.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That depends on the state. Some do require waiting periods for buying guns.

[–] KraeuterRoy@feddit.org 2 points 1 hour ago

Do they require waiting times after you attached a flashlight or switched to a bigger magazine, though?

Because that is what Google is doing here - enacting limitations / hurdles for phones that were already sold.

[–] gndagreborn@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago

The comment about the firearm comparison really got me. That is so fucking true.

[–] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

For myself I wouldn't be going to Iphone, but I am going to make sure any phone I buy will have the option of installing LineageOS or another rom from now on.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 hours ago

I have to admit I'm in the same boat, ive been on android for 15 years, but if they take away Graphene Im just switching to iPhone, at least then I won't get complaints from friends and family about lack of Imessage.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

on a device I already own

It seems that's less true than we had thought.

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Time to bite the bullet and move the phone to Linux as well.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

I pre ordered the new jolla phone, but since then I haven't heard anything.
Hopefully this will give me a phone with Linux and Android app compatibility layer, until there is more competition in this sector

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Whelp, looks like I'm spending my PTO week installing a new OS in my pixel and trying to make bank/payment shit work.

[–] C8r9VwDUTeY3ZufQRYvq@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 hours ago

Advanced flow sounds like a naturopathic prostate therapy.