No, he actually said “There is a very real scenario in which personal computing as we know it is dead.”
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Welcome to headlines lying to your face
There has been a spitfire of such deceivingly titled articles being posted here within the past couple of days.
~~There is a very real scenario in which~~ personal computing as we know it is dead
I guess that’s technically what he said, just not all of it. 🙄
So essentially contextomy.
"Anyone who thinks murder is okay is an evil person."
"~~Anyone who thinks~~ murder is okay ~~is an evil person.~~"
Headline: "Local madman says murder is okay."
I fucking hate this, but in the age of tiktok and instagram, it's a serious problem. I'm afraid to speak in public because soo many things can sound really bad with all the context removed. In fact, it's nearly impossible to take a principled stance without exposing yourself to that risk.
And then when I say "that's taken out of context and twisted to sound way worse than it is," people hit me with the "cOnTeXt DoEsN't MatTeR!!1!1! tHeRe'S nO wAy To JuStIfY wHaT yOu SaId!"
No way to justify how it sounds out of context, but if you hear it within context you'll understand that that's not even what I was saying in the first place.
But people don't care about that. They care about ragebait, content, and engagement. And tech giants can manipulate algorithms to smear anyone who's too vocal against them...
If that scenario comes true I will change careers from Computer Science and become either a blacksmith or a woodworker. I am entirely serious.
Become a blacksmith, supply the revolution with cool swords.
Swords are awesome, but not very practical against drones and bullets.
Like, a cool sidearm to have as a backup as long as it doesn't get in the way. A dagger might be less obtrusive and still get the point across. But swords these days are good for three things: reenacting, sport, and display.
Maybe decades post-apocalypse when blackpowder is in short supply they'll be more practical. Unless we have laser guns already at that point...
Tangential thought: I wonder if a heavily polished sword can reflect laser beams like in star wars... 🤔
Be a blacksmith, make your own hardware!
(just need reaallly tiny tools)
Yeah… I received the email teasing their upcoming announcement.
Here is the text in full for the context:
We’ve spent the last six years in Framework proving that it’s possible to build high-performance, thin, light computers that last longer and respect your rights through repairability, upgradeability, and customization. We’re happy to see repair rapidly becoming the norm rather than the exception, with even Apple of all companies embracing it on their latest notebook. I built this company specifically to reset and fix a broken industry. So, mission accomplished? Not quite. There is a very real scenario in which personal computing as we know it is dead.
Memory, storage, silicon, and everything related to it is being consumed at unprecedented levels in a “winner takes all” race to an AI-first world in which access to compute is metered by the token. It’s clear that the fundamentals of computing and electronics have changed. The computer in the cloud has increasingly greater economic output than the computer in the hand. This means that to the extent that there are constraints on the supply that feeds both, the cloud will win every time. We see this in the rapidly rising costs of silicon and all of the devices that depend on it, the shift from ownership to subscription, and the rise of closed black boxes over an open ecosystem. What does this all mean? The industry is asking you to own nothing and be happy. Computers are no longer a bicycle for the mind. They are becoming the self-driving car that takes you directly to the destination.
You might be reading all of this and thinking, is this a farewell letter to personal computing? Is this the end of Framework? No, this is a manifesto. No matter how inevitable the AI-takes-all scenario may sound, as long as there is a person in the world who still wants to own their means of computation, we will be here to build the hardware that enables it. That means computers that you can own at the deepest level and do what you want with, whether that is choosing your OS, modifying your hardware, or even just keeping your data and computation local rather than leased from the cloud. We won’t get there all at once, but we will always be fighting for a future where you can own everything and be free.
Every step we take and every product we ship serves that goal. With that, we’re happy to announce that we have our next live launch event coming on April 21st at 10:30am Pacific time in San Francisco. During the event, we’ll be streaming our announcements live to the Framework YouTube channel. You can subscribe and get notified when the stream goes live. We can’t wait for you to see what we’ve been working on.
These products are for you, so we’re opening a batch of invitations to the Framework Community so you can meet the team and get hands on with our newest products. Having community members at our event last year was a lot of fun, and we can’t wait for you to join us alongside press and partners. If you’re a Framework fan and are in the San Francisco area (or are able to handle your own travel to us), you can apply to attend in this sign-up form. We expect we’ll see a lot more interest than we have available seats in our venue, so don’t wait to get your application in.
We have one other update for you ahead of our launch event, which is that our products are now available to ship to four additional countries: New Zealand, Norway, Switzerland, and Singapore. You can start ordering everything we have in-stock now, though you may want to wait until the 21st to see what we’re announcing!
For a hint at what we’ll be announcing, head to the event page.
I refuse to own nothing. I will not be happy about it. I will have freedom.
Didn't Apple just launch a $600 laptop?
Edit: everyone made a bunch of really great points. Mine was more about addressing the affordability angle of a dying Personal Computing.
It has indeed. One with 8GB RAM, not upgradable. Strictly limited to MacOS, no Linux no nothing.
Don't get me wrong, it is a fantastic offer but decisively non-modular and non upgradeable and no freedom of operating system choice. Framework's laptop's are the opposite, they are modular, upgradeable and easily repairable, with replacement parts being sold at a fair price.
The new Apple Neo has come a long way with a relatively clean interior and decently easy battery replacement procedure. That is less their own doing though and more them preparing for new EU legislation mandating exactly that.
One with 8GB RAM, not upgradable. Strictly limited to MacOS, no Linux no nothing.
Which, in the history of computing devices, certainly is nothing new. Apple, and others, has been doing this pretty much forever.
Oh, then I must have imagined the Mac I used years back with Windows just a false memory imprint I suppose. I was not saying that all of the above is a deal braker for everyone but it is definitely a deal breaker for some. Certainly if you want to use Linux, the Neo is simply not an option at all. Most Windows laptops are though and especially Framework laptops are very much so.
The fact that Apple doesn't really want you to use their stuff with other systems doesn't mean that you absolutely cannot do so. I don't know what gave you that absurd idea.
And even the relatively generic PC computers we have nowadays are designed to be quite hostile to anything that isn't Windows, even though we manage to work around it in most cases.
They provided and updated Windows drivers for their hardware for more than a decade.
They did, I was not talking about the past though. I was talking about Apple Silicon.
Oh man. I began using Linux a little over a year ago by installing Ubuntu (then switching to Mint) on old Macs--a 2011 iMac and a 2015 MacBook Pro. The MacBook had a logic board failure and I decided to grab a super cheap Lenovo IdeaPad from Costco a few months back. Getting a bootable USB for the first Mac was really the only challenge I ever had, otherwise the installs were extremely straightforward (especially when I went to Mint). But for the IdeaPad (which has a CoPilot key on the keyboard and was "optimized for Windows 11"), while there weren't any real gymnastics involved, the process of removing Windows 11 took substantially longer than MacOS and I got the feeling that it was all the "AI" nonsense trying to avoid being deleted. It was clear that this laptop did NOT want something other than Windows on it.
Of course I was successful. And I managed to remap that Copilot key to bring up the Linux Mint menu when I hit it, as an extra layer of dominance.
x86 iMacs, yes. I was not talking about them. I was talking about Apple Silicon. I am not sure what makes removing Windows 11 so difficult, can't you simply install over it, the disk is being formatted before the installation anyway. And once Windows 11 is gone so is copilot.
That said, your mileage with laptops varies, regarding hardware support. Often touchpad support or whatever is making some fuss.
I wrote "Strictly limited to MacOS, no Linux no nothing."
To which you responded "Which, in the history of computing devices, certainly is nothing new. Apple, and others, has been doing this pretty much forever."
So unless you did not articulate yourself clearly, that means exactly that you absolutely cannot do so. Which was false in the past. But for the Apple Neo it is largely true, unless you are talking about developing a solution yourself. There is nothing that works on it other than operating systems from Apple. If I am mistaken, please tell me which alternative OS does work on it.
On the other side, I have a Framework Desktop, simply because that was the only option for buying the Max 395+ on an ITX board, for my custom fanles PC project. I had zero problems installing off the mill Linux distros on it.
Don’t get me wrong, it is a fantastic offer but decisively non-modular and non upgradeable and no freedom of operating system choice.
Yeah, it's the complete opposite of what Apple II was: the first truly serviceable personal computer with a lot of DIY support and extensibility.
screen replacement isn't too crazy either on those which I do appreciate. the cost of parts is still high tho we'll see if it comes down in the future
Strictly limited to MacOS, no Linux no nothing.
You can run Linux on the ARM MacBooks.
No you can't, not any Linux. Just a single one, Asahi Linux and that only on M1 and M2 nothing newer and that is not a flawless experience either and recommended only for those understanding the limitations.
But I wasn't even talking about other MacBooks, I was talking about the Apple Neo and there not even Asahi Linux runs, at least I am not aware of any fork that would work. Correct me please if you know more.
can it run Linux?
Can it? Yes.
Will it? Almost certainly.
Is there something you can install right now? No.
Its $500 for students
I'll of course hold on to my current laptop for as long as it lasts, but a Framework will be up next.
I feel like an absolute idiot for ever being anti-laptop. I got a framework and my PC immediately became a server. One of the best investments I have ever made.
Yes! Laptops do have their cons but I feel like all the people who are anti laptop are just people that have never got to experience great it is to have a laptop.
quite the opposite. if I never experienced laptop I'd probably want one. the idea of the laptop is cool... but the only reason I'm anti laptop is because I have worked with laptops. of all kinds too, from the shitty basically no hardware ones to the gaming laptops i can play the latest games and work with blender on. they're all uncomfortable. desktop rules.
No, it is not. It will never happen until the open source world will keep that relatively conservative mentality
The headline doesn't match the article, they said personal computing was at risk of dieing.
Hah. Common PC hardware is still overpowered in 10 years time. Let's see where OpenAI is by then.