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cross-posted from: https://scribe.disroot.org/post/8494004

Former Canadian diplomat Michael Kovrig is sounding the alarm about Canada seeking deeper trade ties with China in the face of growing tensions and uncertainty with the U.S., warning the pivot carries significant risks to Canada’s economic security.

Speaking Tuesday at the Future of Business Summit in Ottawa, Kovrig — a longtime China analyst who was arbitrarily detained by Beijing for more than 1,000 days after Canada detained Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou — said Ottawa’s new China strategy is a “risky play” that will not be viewed kindly by Washington and could threaten trade talks.

He pointed to U.S. Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick’s criticism last week of Prime Minister Mark Carney’s deal with China, announced early this year, which included importing a limited number of Chinese electric vehicles.

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“The basic problem is that China is not a solution to most of our problems with the U.S.,” Kovrig said at the Canadian Chamber of Commerce-hosted event.

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Kovrig said a key difference between the two countries is that China is currently “in selling mode, not in buying mode,” and is seeking to make international markets reliant on its cheaper exports.

While Canada has only committed to buying up to 49,000 Chinese EVs, Kovrig said Beijing may seek to increase that quota using economic and diplomatic pressure points like it has in the past.

He warned Ottawa not to be driven by “short-term considerations” like consumer demand for less expensive electric vehicles that could lead to “the long-term strategic implications that path dependence can put us on.”

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“If you’re living in a small town and you have just a local Main Street with a hardware store and so on, sure, wouldn’t it be nice to have a Walmart move in and offer you all kinds of cheaper homewares and stuff?” Kovrig said.

“That’s going to be great until … they come in with super low prices and bankrupt all your local shops, and then Main Street looks like a dead zone and all that’s left is Walmart, and then there’s no competition and they can ratchet up the prices. Chinese makers will be able to do the same thing, and it will come with the cost of geopolitical leverage that the state can weaponize.”

Kovrig said the export strategy mirrors how China has already made Canadian sectors like canola, pork and seafood “excessively” dependent on the Chinese marketplace, he added.

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“If China cuts off that trade, the people in those sectors face an economic catastrophe and come running to Ottawa and are effectively trying to lobby our government to do what the Chinese Communist Party wants it to do,” Kovrig said.

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[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Kovrig — a longtime China analyst who was arbitrarily detained by Beijing for more than 1,000 days after Canada detained Huawei CFO Meng Wanzhou — said Ottawa’s new China strategy is a “risky play” that will not be viewed kindly by Washington and could threaten trade talks.

Two things here:

  1. Don't quote me, but I have a theory he could be sightly biased against China.

  2. No trade talks with the US can be trusted. Not when President Gump could change things in any way at any moment for any (or no) reason. Even if Jesus Christ his own self won the next election, lost MAGAts and Other Assorted Stupid People could elect someone like Trump - or worse - four years later! The days of trusting the US are over. Countries around the world looking to divest themselves from trade with Donnistan are smart.

[–] Scotty@scribe.disroot.org 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Countries around the world looking to divest themselves from trade with Donnistan are smart.

No one challenges this. But China is not the solution.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then which country has the production power to contest US. For now, not the whole or the only, but a part of the solution. The solution being diversification.

How is China any different than US or Israel.

[–] Jiggs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

I think the significant production power of China was one of the points. As in, "China can sell cheap and has little need to buy from us", outselling local markets in the long run.

Sounds like valid concern and as you pointed out, Canada might need to diversify, instead of replacing one single point of failure with another.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 1 day ago

Being biased against the CCP is called having at least two braincells to rub together.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 9 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Economic threats aside China is also a real physical threat. Every penny to the CCP is a penny that could be used to wage war, either directly or via proxy as they are known for.

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

So no difference to the US, except at least the Chinese government is not a bunch of unpredictable and irrational clowns shitting their pants more and more every day.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

If your metric for success is how competent they are at bloodthirsty militant takeovers then yes, China is "winning". The problem is that no matter how Canada bends over for them or works to please them, China will never be on "their side".

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Looking at USA and its history it is too not on anyone's side for long.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Firstly, thats completely off topic to Chinese interference in Canadian democracy and economics. Secondly, they have a multi century friendship with France and Ireland and managed to build the worlds largest mutual defence pact NATO which also protects Canada.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

US interference in foreign countries democracy and economics is par for the course and much more destructive than anything China has done. South America, Cuba, Central America, Iran, Afghanistan... The list goes on.

The only difference being the countries were not white. China doesn't discriminate. It interferes immaterial of race.

The current version of China is not even century old still it has treaties with Russia, North Korea. That doesn't prove anything.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

With friends like those, hopefully it doesnt last another century.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If Canada can survive with US surely China would too.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

China will collapse just as the USSR before it.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe it will, no country is made to last.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Dictatorships are especially volatile in this day and age. The divine right of kings is over, pal.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You realize that the constant whataboutism to defend China weakens your standing in debates? We're not idiots. We see you.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Not defending China. I am defending the position that US is just as bad as China. China exploits and massacre Ughyurs, US did the same with Native Americans and blacks. China is doing political manipulation, US is doing political manipulation.

I am defending Canada's decision to trade with China.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 9 hours ago

I'm not [defending China] I'm just [defending China]

[–] GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No one will be on your side, ever. Look after yourself and your interests. Fuck USA, China is the only viable trade partner at the moment to replace the USA. China doesn't need to be "on their side", and no one expects that from either China nor the USA anymore.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 3 points 1 day ago

For like the 8th time, nobody comes in here to promote USA. It's only in the discussion at all because you people think "USA BAD" qualifies as justification for a dictatorship hosting genocide and slave labor.

[–] NaibofTabr 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The most immediate question is probably, how long can your country remain functional without TSMC?

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This comment is kind of funny because both the USA and China think TSMC and even Taiwan as a whole belongs to their side.

[–] NaibofTabr 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Only one claims ownership of the land where TSMC is based, and threatens to conduct a military invasion to enforce that claim.

The US' interest is in maintaining the status quo for Taiwan - independence. The US has not attempted to dictate trade relationships for Taiwan or threatened to take military control of their country.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

If taiwanese decide to become part of China which they aren't current the usa would become hostile to them

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's funny because the usa is the biggest funder of terrorism and proxies

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So you're saying they should work with murdering assholes because somewhere else is a different group of murdering assholes and that normalizes it?

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Canadian and European weapons are used in Gaza and Sudan, two extreme form of genocide. I guess Canadian should not works with Europe and Europe should not work with Canada. You where fine with working with the USA before Trump too . The west was benefiting from the USA imperialism and wars until trump threatened them

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every penny to US is used for war, either through proxy or directly.

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I havent once said that Canada should trade with USA in this thread, and Canada is protected from the USA by NATO.

[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It kinda is, though? Just divesting enough could put pressure on the US to not be so stupid (long-term)

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 1 points 1 day ago

USA already has tons of incentive, it isn't a rational actor in part because a bunch of beijing associated businessmen influenced US Elections like they're trying to do in Canada.