At that point you should just get a tankless and never have your shower cry sessions interrupted by cold water again.
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But the cold is where I want my emotional state to end up.
[insert Linkin Park's "Crawling"]
I'd rather be able to shower with no power tbh..specifically opted for at.ospheric for that reason. Much cheaper to buy upfront and works in the event of big storms etc.. tankless can suck my dirty nuts but I see the appeal, kinda..
Unless you're showering in the basement, then your pump doesn't work, and you'll flood the basement as soon as you fill up the waste water tank.
That's... what?
In my home there aren't any pumps.
Water comes in, under pressure, from the city to my water outlets around the house.
Waste water goes down a drain and out into the cities sewage system completely by gravity.
Does the hot water heater also use the pressure from the main line?
That's how all hot water heaters work. His just uses natural gas instead of electricity.
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Every tankless I've used has been a piece of crap. Constantly breaking down. Heat surging and going cold in the shower. Outright just not heating water. All within 2 years of install. Never again. Tanks only for me from now on.
That just killed one of my personal goals, thanks.
I ended up getting 2 hot water tanks and putting them in series. Endless hot water doing it that way. I've also plumbed it so that if one fails I can adjust a few valves and run on one tank until I can fix/replace the other.
I should note, I live 160km from the nearest city so I can't just call a guy out to fix things.
Couldn't you have just run it in parallel and have a T split with valves on the intake and output? In order to drain a side for repairs you could just close the working side off and void it normally. In series just seems like a weird choice to me.
Yeah, series sounds like an awful idea.
Unless they are weak as sht, and the water needs to be heated twice to get up to temperature.
I talked to a plumber and it's what he recommended. I decided to not to question someone with far more experience than me. Your solution would probably work too.
As a Dutch person I've never seen a water heating system with a tank like in the US, we all use boilers and they are fantastic. Boilers are harder to use in "big" homes though.
You haven't been to Europe then. I have a boiler in my basement which delivers hot water for two bathrooms and a kitchen as long as I want with constant temperature and never breaking down. That's not even something special just the standard.
If you live in an area with hard water, you are suppose to descale the heater at least once every year by flushing the system with some citric acid solution, otherwise you may get irregular hot water flow.
That's amazing. I mean, I haven't seen/heard of a tanked hotwater heater in my country in decades, outside of increasingly infrequent rooftop solar heated tanks.
We've got instant gas, but I suppose most are electric now. Been running for decades with only needing to be adjusted between summer and winter temps sometimes.
Tanks are just... Useless. Takes up space with no benefit. Tanks use more power or gas. They fail more often (despite your personal experience).
If your tankless system is lasting less than 20 years, you're doing something wrong. If your tankless isn't giving steady water temp nonstop, you're doing something wrong. I mean, those are two of the main benefits they have over tanks. That, and cheaper to run.
Their only advantage is they're cheap to buy and cheap to install.
It's the cheap boots issue.
You save money up front and so you waste money long term.
Or, you buy good boots that last.
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as someone who has only ever lived in an apartment, the idea that you'd run out of hot water is so fucking insane to me
Wait Sweden has enough population density to have apartments?
lol yes it's a standard form of housing, remember that 80% of people live in urban areas basically no matter which country you're talking about. 50% of the population lives in the 3 metropolitan areas, the vast majority of the population lives south of gävle, and basically everyone in the north lives on the coast or in the few inland urban areas.
The nordics are honestly pretty similar to north america, just on a much smaller scale. no one lives in wyoming but that doesn't mean the USA has no dense areas (NYC has a larger population than norway).
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Holy shit this caught me off guard, hahahaha.
This was the first actual out-loud laughter of my day. Thanks!
You guys have hot water??
i just turn the flow down a bit once it gets hot so the cry can last longer.
On the shower floor? I don't fit on there. Maybe if I had money and a modern shower, one of those that half of the water go outside because there is only a fucking half shower glass ...
I have one of those, and we got tired of water getting everywhere. I hung a curtain rod.
Where do I get me one of these?
Mostly by generational trauma but some get by with fresh trauma
If you don't happen to have generational trauma, store-bought is fine
And the one pictures doesn't need hydro so you can do it after having your power cut.
$2,000 USD later... 🥵🙌
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