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From Naked Capitalism:

...one has to wonder what the latest Blinken round of visits to the Middle East was supposed to accomplish, since all it did was expose our impotence. Even the Financial Times could not hide that the meetings with Netanyahu and then Arab leaders were a train wreck. Netanyahu rejected even any itty bitty ceasefire, branded a humanitarian pause, to get relief in, demanding that Hamas release all hostages first. The fact that Israel has welched or underperformed on its past begrudging promises to let trucks from Egypt in, would make that a non-starter even before getting to Hamas being sure to stick to its position of wanting to trade hostages for Palestinian prisoners. And of course the Arab states are not about to budge. Blinken got a more pointed version of what he was told before.

Antony Blinken faced intense pressure from regional allies to facilitate an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, laying bare the stark gap between US support for Israel and the outrage in Arab capitals over the siege and bombardment of the strip….

Sameh Shoukry, the Egyptian foreign minister, demanded an unconditional ceasefire, a commitment that Israel’s prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu bluntly rejected after meeting Blinken on Friday.

Blinken had been expected to “brainstorm” with Arab diplomats the future of Gaza, home to 2.3mn Palestinians, after the war ends. Safadi bluntly rejected those talks as premature. “How can we even entertain what will happen in Gaza when we do not know how Gaza will be left?” he asked Blinken. “Are we going to be talking about a wasteland? Are we talking about a whole population reduced to refugees?”

This comes off as the sort of thing someone who had just read classic texts on negotiating trying to put in practice: “Gee, let’s get a dialogue going! Let’s get to ‘Yes’ on some less fraught issues to pave the way for further agreement!” In addition, “brainstorming” is cringemakingly American. You don’t do that with people who are mad at you. You don’t do that in a crisis. Between independent entities, you do not do that at the top level. You have low level people or emissaries float ideas. So why this exercise? The worst is that Biden and Blinken come off as so disconnected from reality that they though they might get someone to accommodate US needs.


Friendly reminder: when commenting about a news event, especially something that just happened, please provide a source of some kind. While ideally this would be on nitter or archived, any source is preferable to none at all given.

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Lebanon! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants. More detail here.



Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

You're going to have to (hex)bear with me on the update this week. Have you been feeling generally pretty terrible this last month or so? So have I, and doomscrolling and archiving it all is my quasi-job at this point. Not good, folks, more and more people are saying it. I'll get over it eventually.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Are there any other wikipedia pages where they specifically tell you which food locations you can find diplomats from a specific country at? That info seems ridiculously unsafe.

It's real odd that this DPRK wiki article has it.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

About a week ago - I shared a Ta-Nehisi Coates quote and video in the megathread.

Ta-Nehisi Coates on his visit to Israel and Palestine - "There's a word that come up all the time and it's 'complexity' and it's closely related adjective 'complicated'... I assumed it would be hard to descern right from wrong to understand the morality at play [and the conflict]. But perhaps the most shocking thing was that I immediately understood."

video - https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1720062305562497024/vid/avc1/480x270/OZBnhaK-xzfYInO9.mp4?tag=16

"You can't behold evil and then return and not speak on it."

Ta-Nehisi Coates speaks about how an experience in Palestine illuminated the connections between the African American and Palestinian liberation struggles, and the moral responsibility to speak out.

Nitter

There are 3 tweets and each as a video.

 

It's been on my mind since then. It remains shocking to me how much "analysis" by Israelis and pro-Israel people entirely falls apart if you push aside such misdirections as "The situation is complex", "War is a blunt instrument", "Military situations are uncertain", etc.

I just read this Economist article with its themes of "complexities" and "uncertainties". I think it's kind of darkly unintentionally breathtakingly hilarious how he snidely says things are complicated and war is uncertain and everybody who isn't Israeli who is judging the situation is silly and wrong. Also - and of course - only one side can commit atrocities.

David Enoch argues that much of the public discourse on the Israel-Hamas conflict is depressingly simplistic

Intellectuals should be more honest about the uncertainties, says the legal philosopher

The morality of war is extremely complicated. So, consequently, are the ethics of commenting on it. But in the war in Israel and Gaza, some things are simple: the horrendous atrocities committed by Hamas cannot be justified, under any circumstances.

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If you think that a call for a ceasefire is justified, given factual uncertainties, as a way of erring on the side of safety, you should remember that when it comes to war, often there is no side of safety. Any mistakes—using too much force, not using enough—will be paid for in the only relevant currency, the blood of innocents.

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What is a conscientious public intellectual to do? Surely we must have something to say about a horrible tragedy that is unfolding in front of our eyes? Indeed, philosophers and other intellectuals have chimed in, not just as individuals, but also in groups. In one such intervention, 45 academics from the University of Oxford wrote an open letter condemning Israel and calling on Britain’s political leaders to urge an immediate ceasefire, without so much as a gesture in the direction of the uncertainties involved.

In another public text, signed mostly by North-America-based academic philosophers, anti-colonialist jargon was lifted unmodified from the nice-sounding-slogans shelf and applied with no sensitivity to any of the facts relevant here.

Before I read the article I googled him and saw a photo that showed him getting arrested by the police. Of course - he wasn't protesting the slaughter in Gaza. That is complicated. It was a photo from March. He was protesting Netanyahu's plans to scale back the independence and power of its judiciary.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

An Economist think piece headline "Too soon? Or is now the time to invest in genocide futures?"

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If you're in the mood to read a 850 word article about what The Economist thinks about the word "genocide" - How the term "genocide" is misused in the Israel-Hamas war

This made me laugh.

Even if an army's actions do not pass the threshold of genocide, they can still be wrong.

"An army", The Economist? We all know that Israel is the cop in this so-called theoretical "officer related shooting".

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

(cw: derogatory uses of "dwarf")

Lion's Den statement excerpt:

The enemy, and those who supported and were allied with them, thought that they could destroy Gaza or destroy its solidity and its social fabric with the multitude of their crimes and their persistence in revenge against children, women and civilians, instead of confronting him man to man, as the sons of the resistance did when they trampled on the necks of its soldiers and leaders and destroyed the entire Gaza Division, which was already equipped and prepared to fight in Gaza.

The enemy knows full well that the resistance did not exert force against civilians, nor against children, nor against women. On the contrary, this war will end, and the occupation public will know that its army committed massacres against the so-called civilians in the Gaza envelope on October 7. Instead of protecting the hostages and seeking their safe exit, [the enemy] was the one who unleashed its tanks and planes to kill everything: resistance fighters, hostages, civilians and children. This enemy is fully prepared to kill “israeli” children and women and bomb “israeli” prisoners just to determine their location rather than ruin the image that it wants to promote to the international community. This will be revealed as soon as this battle ends and the investigation committees begin that will isolate the failure Netanyahu and the dwarves of his government with him.

The occupation public must drag Ben-Gvir through the streets of the entity because he caused them this defeat. This dwarf is the one who indulged in the desecration of Al-Aqsa, and he is the one who armed and directed the settlers to further increase their crimes in the West Bank, which required the resistance in Gaza to stand up to its national responsibility in defending the women who were dragged in the alleys of Al-Quds and the sanctities that were desecrated. The resistance to strike the first blow because this failed government was planning for something greater than that after the end of their holiday.

Here, the Lions' Den groups reassure our proud people that the enemy is tasting what it has not tasted in all the wars it has fought to this day, and that everything that happens and that your eyes see is what the resistance wants, demands, wishes for, and has waited for for a long time. The enemy has fallen into the mud of Gaza and its shifting sands, and no power in the world can get it out from this mire.

We say to the few who began to speculate about the isolation of the resistance in Gaza and its defeat, we say to you: no way, [this is far-fetched]. The resistance will stand victorious, tall, with its head raised, and you will have shame and disgrace. We put the barrels of the destroyed tanks in your behinds, God willing.

Here it is necessary for us to give the salute of the Den to the Den, a greeting from the homeland to the second homeland, the brotherly Jordan, its people with all its parts. We salute the Jordanian Foreign Minister, who read the reality well, unlike those who drooled quickly and thought that he would enter Gaza on the back of tanks.

Our father and brother, [Mohammed Deif] Abu Khaled, to Commander Saleh Al-Arouri, and to all the leaders of the resistance, we say that the West Bank will only be a sword and a shield for you, God willing. O our people in the West Bank, more, more engagement and clashes. Victory is only an hour’s patience, God willing.

The Lions' Den groups declare their responsibility for carrying out more than fourteen shooting operations in the Nablus area and its surroundings, from the area of Deir Sharaf to the Zawata bypass to the post on "Mount Gerizim" and the post of "Ebal" and "Itamar" and "Elon Moreh" and the Al-Muraba'a, and we continue, God willing.

Allah is the Greatest, and victory is but an hour's patience.
Your brothers, the Lions' Den groups.

from https://t.me/PalestineResist/18623 and https://t.me/PalestineResist/18624

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Australia has been generous enough to take in climate refugees from Tuvalu due to their country gradually sinking as climate change worsens. The catch? Australia has entered a "defense pact" and has to approve any other defense partnerships Tuvalu takes with any other country. This is obviously in response to the Solomon Islands making that deal with China earlier.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-67340907

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

archive.today • Viewed Warily by Democrats, a Netanyahu Ally Is a Key Conduit to U.S. - The New York Times

Ron Dermer sits in Israel’s five-member war cabinet and is a crucial liaison to the Biden administration, including U.S. officials he clashed with when he was ambassador to Washington.

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At one level, Mr. Dermer’s membership in the war cabinet is surprising. Born and raised in Miami Beach, he moved to Israel after graduate school and did not serve in the Israeli military. Three of the cabinet members are retired generals, while Mr. Netanyahu served in a special forces unit as a young soldier.

But on another level, it is predictable, given Mr. Dermer’s longstanding ties to Mr. Netanyahu, who is widely known as Bibi. He has advised the prime minister since 2000, whether from Washington or Jerusalem, and is viewed as his alter ago — or, as the Jewish online magazine Tablet once memorably put it, “Bibi’s Brain.”

“He made sure Dermer was a part of” the war cabinet, said Anshel Pfeffer, who wrote a biography, “Bibi: The Turbulent Life and Times of Benjamin Netanyahu.” He added, “It’s telling that the only person he trusts on it is Ron Dermer, who has little or no military experience.”

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His first job out of college at the University of Pennsylvania was working for Frank Luntz, the Republican pollster who had taught him there. In a classroom debate on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Mr. Luntz recalled, he once told Mr. Dermer to take the Palestinian side.

“His side won, which horrified him, so he sprinted to the front of the room to assert that the only reason why he had been victorious is because he lied in all his claims,” Mr. Luntz said. “Israel was already more important to him than his own personal reputation.”

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

80,000 people used evacuation corridor to flee northern Gaza Thursday, Israeli officials say

Eighty-thousand people fled northern Gaza through an evacuation corridor Thursday, Israel's Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories (COGAT) said in a statement on social media.

The numbers announced by COGAT would mark a rise in evacuations compared to the previous day, when 50,000 people evacuated northern Gaza, according to Israel Defense Forces figures. CNN cannot independently verify the evacuation totals.

The IDF has opened evacuation corridors several times this week for periods of several hours — a pattern it seemed to formalize Thursday, when the White House announced Israel had agreed to continue with daily four-hour pauses of military operations in parts of northern Gaza.

An IDF spokesperson reiterated Thursday that there is no ceasefire in the territory. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said that could only come with the release of all Hamas hostages.

“The fighting continues, there’s no ceasefire. We repeat that — there’s no ceasefire. We continue fighting,” Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said in a news conference. The IDF spokesperson said he visited Gaza in a military convoy and that the evacuation corridor "is working."

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-11-09-23/h_012af289dde72b9d4dc78cb41fc43f30

[–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (7 children)
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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is the assasination attempt on Mahmoud Abbas real or just a false alarm?

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago
[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

"Remember:" is in bold at the site. I thought/think it's funny. "Remember, jack - I said - re-occupying Gaza would be a mistake." Yeah, Biden - I'm sure they give a fuck.

Israel will "retain complete freedom of action" in Gaza after war, defense minister says

Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said Israel will "retain complete freedom of action to respond to any situation in the Gaza Strip" once the war ends.

Speaking at the Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee Tuesday morning, Gallant said that "at the end of this 'campaign,' Hamas, as a military organization or governing body in Gaza, will cease to exist." Gallant's comments were published on the Ynet news website.

"There will be no security threat to Israel from Gaza, and Israel will retain complete freedom of action, to respond to any situation in the Gaza Strip that poses any kind of threat," Gallant can be heard saying on the Ynet recording. Gallant’s comments echo those of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who on Monday said in an interview with ABC News that Israel will have the "overall security responsibility" in Gaza for an “indefinite period” after the war ends.

Taken together, the comments shed light on the Israeli government’s plans for post-war Gaza. Government officials have not yet elaborated on how Gaza would be governed should they succeed in eliminating Hamas.

Remember: US President Joe Biden warned Israel last month that re-occupying Gaza would be a mistake.

Gallant also said on the Ynet recording that the war's top priority was to "eliminate this phenomenon called Hamas," and that he was personally focused on "victory in the war" and returning Israeli hostages home.

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Haha.

Way to go, Joe. They didn't even give a fuck before. Now they'll give negative fucks.

US leaving post-war situation to Israel

We know there was a conversation on Monday between the Israeli prime minister and the US president. The two leaders are in close coordination, and there is undoubtedly lockstep support by the Biden administration for Israel.

Having said that, there is this push by the US to have these humanitarian pauses, but for the most part, they are leaving what happens after this conflict to the Israelis.

This is an ongoing conversation, something the National Security [Council] spokesperson John Kirby said, particularly regarding those humanitarian pauses.

This is something the US say they are getting pushback on from the Israelis but are encouraging strongly given the fact that they feel grave concern about the high number of casualties and the insufficient number of trucks going into Rafah crossing.

-Al Jazeera

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[–] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Please help me find the video of the IDF helicopter attacking the festival or a source that covers that? I can’t find it and somebody asked for proof after I brought it up.

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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