this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2023
244 points (100.0% liked)

196

17640 readers
291 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.


Rule: You must post before you leave.



Other rules

Behavior rules:

Posting rules:

NSFW: NSFW content is permitted but it must be tagged and have content warnings. Anything that doesn't adhere to this will be removed. Content warnings should be added like: [penis], [explicit description of sex]. Non-sexualized breasts of any gender are not considered inappropriate and therefore do not need to be blurred/tagged.

If you have any questions, feel free to contact us on our matrix channel or email.

Other 196's:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Local student is being denied the role for not be assigned male at birth. Now they've decided that Oklahoma is too controversial of a play and includes graphic scenes not fit for minors so they're pulling the whole show. Bunch of asshats at Sherman, TX ISD.

Edit: I will try to answer any comments I can. I do not personally know the student. I can't really speak for trans folks as I'm just an ally who wants better for this kiddo and all trans people.

top 32 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] kromem@lemmy.world 104 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, because it's not like theater has a longstanding history of having people play characters that are a different sex from the one they were born as or anything...

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 63 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Shakespeare = typical woke leftist groomer

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literally just writing stories so men can dress like fairies and kiss each other in front of others

As a fabulous queen watches.

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago

Dammit, Aristophanes was also a SJW!

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 69 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There isn't even an attempt to suggest that there is some form of greater good at play here. They just apologetically do it and make no excuses. This is oppression, plain and simple.

[–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Now they're acting like it was never about Max and that it was the adult themes in "Oklahoma" . They dropped the gender rule and the play is postponed until January. No promise of Max keeping his role. I'll be surprised if they aren't buying time so the original lead can take the part back.

[–] vanderbilt@beehaw.org 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I expect no different from Texas at this point.

[–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Same honestly. I'm in a county that 75% of the vote went to The Great Trumpkin. Can barely afford to live here, but can't afford to move either.

[–] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

The Great Trumpkin

OK I'm stealing this one xD

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 years ago

That's how this whole damned town government is. It's a crooked city run by crooked construction company owners, contractors, and other people in the housing market. They put house building before anything else in the town to the point of not enforcing ANY building codes against house builders, burning massive pies of brush in the middle of a heavily populated area for land clearing, and so much more. Their response? Landowners have a right to develop their land. I could go on for hours listing the corruption here, but I digress.

[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

Ah yes, the "ban anything I don't like" kind of liberty.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

disgusting. this policy wouldn't exist if he didn't get a lead role. it's such obvious oppression

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

clearly we just have a biological advantage in uh theatre how can you blame them /s

[–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

yeah people assigned as female are better at acting like a man

/s but not in a transphobic way

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Is the student actually transgender? Because the text of the article mentions Mrs. Doubtfire, which imo is pretty fundamentally different situation. I'm legitimately asking this question, would it be ok for a cis male student to play a female lead? I feel like that wouldn't be ok with a lot of people.

[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The text of the article also says that Max Hightower identifies as a transgender male. His parents refer to him with male pronouns.

I’m legitimately asking this question

Are you? Because it seems like you're wilfully ignoring the explicit statements in the article.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 1 points 2 years ago

That's fine. I read the article. But his dad also talked about Mrs. Doubtfire, which like I said is fundamentally different situation

[–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 years ago

The student is transgender. From my understanding he was assigned female at birth.

[–] Luvon@beehaw.org 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why not? In Shakespearean times all the roles were played by males. It’s called ACTING for a reason. If I play I Christian it doesn’t mean I have to be one; if I play an outgoing sporty dude, it also doesn’t mean I am one.

The student is also transgender, it states as much in the article. Mrs doubtfire wasn’t from the article writer or the kid. It was someone else wondering why people are being so conservatively idiot about it.

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why not? In Shakespearean times all the roles were played by males

You answered your own question. They were played by males because females weren't allowed to perform.

It’s called ACTING for a reason

I'm not saying people would have an issue with it solely because of gender identity. But you don't think people would take issue with a cis male taking the part of a female role?

[–] Luvon@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago

Even to this day females often enough play teens or young adult males. Sometimes because there’re simply aren’t enough male actors.

If they can look and can act the part the director wants, that’s what matters.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're not familiar with the history of theater, are you?

[–] Fal@yiffit.net 2 points 2 years ago

I am, where women weren't allowed to perform so men played their roles instead.

[–] puchaczyk@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The thing is Mrs. Doubtfire IS a male lead. In the musical Daniel Hillard (male lead) crossdresses as Mrs. Doubtfire, so not allowing Max to play that role seems transphobic (though it's propably the school trying to protect its ass from lawsuits by groups such as Moms for Third Reich or whatever they're called... It's also quite ironic as the role seems to me gender non conforming to begin with).

[–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 5 points 2 years ago

the dad was making a really poor analogy, that's all this is

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not for that school, they finna pay.

[–] kumatomic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

For real. They've also been censoring the official school district government Facebook page.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Ooo everybody comment something antagonistic but not threatening so they censor it and get hammered harder for civil rights violations.

[–] ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud 9 points 2 years ago

tell me you know nothing about the history of theater without telling me