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[–] Ordinary_Player@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I see, Apple is also getting their DLSS equivalent lol.

[–] VampyreOfNazareth@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This will be a laugh. AI accelerated tiktok poop.

[–] What_Yr_Is_IT@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Just fucking fix the keyboard algorithm so I can fucking type correctly. I’ve had an iPhone since 2008 and still cannot for shit….

[–] pwnedkiller@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

AI features should never be exclusive to one model.

[–] ehsteve23@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

all i want is to be able to say "play [song] from my library" or "play [podcast] from [app]" and have it work.
That's it. Can your AI do that please.

[–] ________0xb47e3cd837@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Hardware advancements have stalled. Time to release new iPhones with exclusive software

[–] EIGWOIGW@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

AI + Apple = Amazing

[–] Grantus89@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I feel this would be a big mistake, they need to get AI features to as many people as quickly as possible to not look like they are behind and to not look like they are purposefully making old devices obsolete. I know that they like to do on device but if they can’t do that on the last few gens of phones they need to just eat it and do it server side or partially server side until a few years of phones can handle it on device.

[–] Ok-Lengthiness7171@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All they care is about upsell to newer iphones otherwise revenue growth will stagnate by a lot. Just look at their mac with 8gb ram.

[–] VampyreOfNazareth@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Mac revenue dropped by 37%, next year will be interesting, the market is saturated.

[–] taxis-asocial@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Mac revenue got crushed partially because I think M1 chips were so good that they can't expect people to upgrade yet. I mean they aren't even really trying, the M3 presentation was all about getting Intel users to upgrade. Apple has painted themselves into a corner with how good M1 was.

[–] Ok-Lengthiness7171@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah but this is why they are shipping with 8gb ram. They are smart. They will push everyone to upgrade in a few years when their 8gb ram m1 and m2 starts to become slower with AI features in macos.

[–] Nelson_MD@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Was it? I thought they focused on comparing it to the M1 in all of their charts from what I remember. I don't remember much about intel compared to the m1 presentation but I could be wrong.

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[–] Kaveh01@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Well I get your point but there isn’t much to be offered hardware wise to make a new phone each year and they need arguments for new phones. Apple is a publicly traded company and with its high value it has to make bigger earnings every year. So if there is a way they get away with this they will do it.

Even though you can’t compare it perfectly they probably looking at google who seem to get away with only offering their advanced ai features on the new flagship phone even though the standard variant has comparable and so capable hardware for the job.

[–] jugalator@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I think they might be gating AI but I think it would feel a bit silly in practice due to the strong and rising competition that works on all modern iPhones, voice commands and all. Sure, a Siri 2 would be able to integrate into the device and activate features, but that's basically it and that's not what has wowed people about AI, or even anything new.

[–] jrtt4877@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Forget about this I just want to know what Apple next Carbon Neutral achievement is and what theyre doing to save the Planet /s

[–] dangggboi@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Like a better Siri ? Gtfoh with that

[–] randompersonx@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's hard to imagine how Siri could possibly be any better than it currently is, I know.

[–] juliarmg@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You are right. It is already amazing.

[–] caliform@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Every generation has had hardware exclusive AI features — usually in the form of camera improvements.

[–] mellonsticker@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Exactly, so if these AI features are exclusive, wouldn’t be different from Apple’s typical behavior

[–] Silicon_Knight@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

X to doubt. Apple "usually" plans these changes in ahead so other devices can take advantage of it. Not saying that is the case here at all as there are times it did.

[–] mamimapr@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

ChatGPT is just 1 year old. And only recently has it become feasible to run LLMs locally on-device. Apple couldn't really have planned for it hardware-wise.

A common requirement for these LLMs and stable diffusion models is large memory requirement, which Apple has always been stingy with. Only with the newer hardware do I foresee them increasing base memory, if they want to make AI more accessible.

[–] Lankonk@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They mean the 16 pro, right? Because in all likelihood, the 16 will use the A17 Pro or something equivalent.

I'm also not confident that a phone chip will be strong enough to run a LLM like ChatGPT within the next 5 years. I am aware of LLMs that can run on phones right now, but they're slow and they're incapable of tasks that require a moderate level of thought. I'm not optimistic about the capabilities of these exclusive features, if they are coming.

[–] Restore_Plantagenets@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why not just use chatgpt in browser

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[–] TizonaBlu@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Honestly, AI just sounds like NFT and crypto, in that it's a vague hip sounding term. What exactly does an AI do in an iphone, and how does it improve the programs and functionality it already has?

[–] Naughty--Insomniac@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Believe it when I see it.

[–] Neat_Onion@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The current generation doesn't even use the AI capabilities on the CPU. And with future capabilities it'll likely be cloud based anyways...

[–] 8eer8aron@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Apple need to stop making jailbreaking so hard so they can steal ideas from the tweaks. All major ios features were stolen jailbroken tweaks.

[–] mredofcourse@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

No they weren't. It's not like as if Apple launched iOS 1.0 and said, "that's it gang, we're finished!" They were fully intent on continuing to develop it, often implementing things they were first with from macOS.

Apple does things very methodically and given how problems can have a huge impact on a product representing both what drives a multi-trillion company as well as what depends on carrier service providers from around the world, it's often that jailbreak developers got ahead of what Apple was doing or planning.

Copy & Paste, was first with a jailbreak, but absolutely Apple was going to do this. Video recording, same, and worth noting the jailbreak version sucked. Folders, widgets, control panel... all something Apple had done with macOS long before iOS and were inevitable things.

Don't get me wrong, the jailbreak community back in the day was awesome and provided all kinds of features before Apple got around to introducing them. While many of these were novel and innovative, I wouldn't say the majority didn't have prior art on macOS, let alone to say that "All major iOS features were stolen from jailbreak tweaks".

Also worth noting is that the reason why there was jailbreaking was due to flaws in iOS which potentially posed security risks and Apple patching those is a good thing.

[–] aladdinr@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I literally just got my 15 pro max a few weeks aho. Already with the 16 articles?

[–] dramafan1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

It’s not new anymore that newer devices with newer chips would have exclusive features.

I’ve long thought there’s no point in future proofing for my purchases simply because there’s always going to be something new that requires new hardware.

[–] deejay_harry1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] vmbient@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

brave take to post in r/apple

[–] TKent96@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

HAHHHH so glad I waited 😮‍💨

[–] hinstsui@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Can’t wait to ask Siri to set more than 2 timers, we truly live in an age of wonders

[–] Portatort@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just in case you missed it, this is possible now in iOS17

[–] hinstsui@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Just in case you missed it, I was quoting Craig Federighi “We truly live in an age of wonders” from his introduction of multiple timers feature in WWDC 2023

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[–] Portatort@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Wanna bet that this is limited specifically to the camera while any phone capable of running iOS 18 gets all the other AI features

[–] mredofcourse@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Notably, TSMC is the sole manufacturer for Nvidia's powerful H100 and A100 AI processors, the hardware that powers AI tools like ChatGPT and which also comprises the majority of AI data centers.

This is very weak sauce.

[–] santathe1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Idk man, I’ve lived my life up until this point without AI features. Think I’ll be ok.

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[–] InspiredPhoton@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just paid 1200 dollars for my 15 pro max. If it doesn’t support the new AI features I would be pissed off. The a17pro is supposed to have a very powerful neural engine

[–] Portatort@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

iPhone 16 will undoubtedly ship with purely software camera upgrades that don’t come to the 15

It’s been this way since at least the Xs

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[–] smartillo34@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Can we just get through THE CURRENT product cycle before speculating on the next a calendar year away,

[–] DLPanda@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Once again seems like artificial limitations meant to encourage people to buy or upgrade to the latest and not genuine hardware limitations.

[–] hopefulatwhatido@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I feel like Apple is keeping up with the same mistake of making people who get the non pro iPhone feel more compromised every iteration by pushing the segment gap too much. The best part of iPhone mini was that it had the same processor as the max and only mostly differentiated in camera, screen and battery. Now we get the a year old processor that’s hardware locked out of new features which literally announced in the same keynote as the phone. They could have at least made minor changes and called it A16s or A17 and called the pro line 17 pro.

In the generation of marginal improvements it’s stupid not to bring the well established features into play for non pro iPhones. My two cents.

Things like generative AI is a user experience feature and not like an extra camera that hardly anyone uses.

[–] Interesting-Pool3917@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

hahaha. knew the 15 was a foolish upgrade. good thing my 12 pro is still kicking strong

[–] Blindemboss@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Smaller dynamic island too.

[–] Alsandar@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

If design remains stagnant stock price will inevitably go down. Really worried about Apple & Tesla

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