Which country are we talking about?
I barely know people using iOS, much less being elitist about it.
this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2023
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I've heard this bubble thing is only truly relevant in the US. Here in Brazil we mostly use whatsapp...unfortunately
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I don't care much about iMessage. All the people I know who are not an iPhone users use facebook messenger and cry about how bad quality sending pictures and videos are. But do nothing to change that. Thats the problem. I was going though hell to convince my girlfriend to use Signal to chat with me. Because she is an Android user. I hate FB, Insta, WhatsApp and all that stuff.
Yeah I've been looking for a while for an app to switch to. All those messenger apps sucks so much. They all seems to be going to shit everyday we use them.
Should I try Signal ?
Signal is the best in regards to privacy.
Signal uses the same E2E encryption as WhatsApp and is also not Open-Source. One could argue that not being owned by Meta makes it inherently more private, to which I would somewhat agree.
The most private Messaging-App would be some kind of federated Chat, like Jabber or Matrix, that you or a collection of family/friends can self-host.
Unfortunately, nobody uses those ¯\(ツ)/¯
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Excuse me. i don't know what i'm saying but i havent had any green or blue bubbles yet in my life. i guess you're referring to apple's messenger? i don't like that term, but i think people who just believe in iphones (without thinking any further) are sheep. you get nice cloud services, a clean ecosystem and colored bubbles, but little to none control over your device, privacy and a skewed perspective on other people. Idk. Just don't let your phone define you and your friends. I won't. And i won't accept friends who define friendship by the operating system on somebodys phone.
If they do just move on. It's nice of them to display their red flags like that
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Everyone I know uses WhatsApp, and they're not childish enough for carrying about green or blue bubbles. So weird.
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Most of the world uses WhatsApp, and it does not matter if you have iPhone or Android. Are you in the USA? I hear it is the only country where people use apple messages so much that it matters.
I myself use an iPhone, but I don’t at all look down on people who use android.
Hell, I love android and really wish I could use android phones. But I have had several unfortunate occurrences on my two android phones I owned in the past - OS bugs, buggy apps, OS that slows down significantly after one year, dropped texts, dropped calls, dropped voicemails, the list goes on.
Android (in my experience) was incredibly unreliable. Ever since getting an iPhone I haven’t had any of those issues.
What brand were the phones? That makes a huge difference.
Motorola Droid Razr Maxx and Samsung Galaxy S5
I understand that these devices are from years ago and things may have changed since then, but I have friends who still run into odd OS glitches on their new Pixel phones
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SMS is just awful, sending someone an image only for them to get a pixelated mess feels bad. Definitely not any kind of dealbreaker though, and I personally don’t know anyone who could care less about the color of chat bubbles. iMessage is just seamless, works across all my devices and never requires even trivial troubleshooting, which makes it a strong preference.
Sms is a base messaging service. You could have a Nokia 3310 and if somebody texts you it would go trough without issue. I think you can even send it to a regular corded phone and a robotic voice would read the message out for you. That is the singular strength of that system and as soon as you want more than that you should look into other apps. The fact that iMessage is mixing app functionality with its basic sms functions make it a bad app and it ruins things for everyone else.
I’m an app developer on mobile, and I’ve been using SMS for ~25 years (including on old dumb brick phones). I appreciate your explanation, but my understanding of what SMS is and how it works is reasonably strong.
I’m gonna hard disagree with you there, the fact that iMessage mixes functionality is a huge contributor to the fact that iPhones are destroying android phones in the US.
Sending a text message with images and video is a single use case. The protocol that the message uses is an implementation detail and I think that it’s excellent UX for the user not to have to worry about it.
This is the exact reason that Google Allo was an immediate failure. Replacing hangouts (which could send rich messages or fallback to SMS) with an app with a worse feature set guaranteed that nobody would adopt it. Nobody was going to switch between two apps with the same use case (sending textual messages) based on which apps the person they were talking to has on their phone. I get that that’s a thing in Europe, but that’s out of necessity because european telecoms price SMS messages differently and few Europeans use SMS. If SMS isn’t widely used by your circle, you’re forced to worry about which apps the person you’re talking to has installed.
If I want to send a text message, I open my text messaging app, select a contact and send it. iOS determines the best available protocol for me, an enables the best feature set that both parties support. It’s a seamless and extremely enjoyable user experience.
Ruins things for everyone else
Me having an app that handles both SMS and iMessage seamlessly ruins absolutely nothing for anybody lol. This complaint is pretty silly and seems like its complaining that others are on a platform with a feature that you’ve chosen not to be on.
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Wait, so people decide on a phone based of OS because of blue or green chat message colors? This is the first time I'm hearing this, is this something more of a USA thing or does this apply to other ocuntries as well?
Buying a phone based on chat bubble color seems something that occurs in a toxic society, where you are judged based on phone model. And why do they then change to an other platform to write you?
I never had a discussion about Andriod or IPhone based on this parameter, it was more about UI, services and design of the phone. To be fair we all use third party messengers like Signal or Threema.
It's not about the color of the bubbles, it's about SMS vs. iMessage. SMS/MMS is outdated, slow, and limited; nobody should be using it anymore. iMessage is fast and feature-rich; arguably the best chat platform that exists, but it only works from one Apple device to another. Apple uses its position (50 percent of the U.S. smartphone market) to alienate anyone not using their hardware by rolling back to SMS when communicating with a non-iOS/MacOS device. This happens behind the scenes, all directly from the same Messages application. So from the iPhone user's perspective, they're either getting a fantastic experience (blue bubbles) or the absolute worst one (green bubbles) and it's all dependent on what the other person is using.
It's by design. Apple wants the default experience between an iPhone and an Android to be uncomfortable. And getting 125 million American iPhone users to use a different chat application is impossible since they have a truly premium experience with iMessage to iMessage communication.
It's a US thing. It took european carriers a very long time to offer unlimited texts (especially across borders) which in turn helped apps like Whatsapp, Signal, Telegram. iPhones display messages/SMS from non-iPhones in green bubbles. Pictures sent from non-iPhones are displayed in lower resolutions because Apple doesn't support some standard or smth.