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[–] TheGIGAcapitalist@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

"“If [transgenderism] is false, then for the good of society, transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely – the whole preposterous ideology,” he said. "

Mr Knowles has said in the past that his rhetoric isn’t genocidal because he doesn’t believe trans people exist, Jezebel noted.

“There can’t be a genocide,” he said on his programme last week, adding that “it’s not a legitimate category of being. They’re labouring under a delusion. And so we need to correct that delusion”.

The exact same thing could be said for the 'my sky fairy is the true real one' ideologies. Monotheism is a brain disease.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just wanted to point out that gender dysphoria isn't an ideology, it is a recognized condition and its treatment is the current state of medical practice.

Saying "transgenderism is an ideology" is as nonsensical as saying "depressionism is an ideology".

But right wing folks like to spout any nonsense so long as it seems to support their hatred and hurt the target thereof.

I think religious belief qualifies as ideology and I would argue that the abrahamic religions have been shown to lend themselves to regressive, hateful thinking time and again.

I personally think religion is simply an artifact, maybe even a side effect, of our evolutionary adaptations. One that is not too well adapted to life following the neolithic era and especially poorly suited to modern global existence.

[–] Twelve20two@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago

Addendum: one does not need to experience gender dysphoria to be transgender/anywhere outside the gender binary. Cisgender people can experience it too, like if you look in the mirror and feel that your body doesn't match your gender as much as you internally feel it should

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

PS: the quote I was responding to is from the Conservative Political Action Conference. Which was full of similar hate...

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/cpac-transgender-marjorie-taylor-greene-b2293986.html

[–] zloubida@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Based church

[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If [transgenderism] is false

The way these self-confident charlatans talk, you'd think they believe every thing they don't like must be its own ideology, complete with ivory-tower academics dispensing it from a great height.

I'm seeing a bit of this kind of referential language elsewhere too, decrying such bugbears as 'evolutionism' and 'abortionism'- which, when you think about it, seems contrived to give people who read the title and don't read content the impression that there are whole fields of study, replete with cult followings, devoted to these things.

Rhetoric of this kind has a way of getting people to file away contingent-possible notions (that is, it might or might not be a thing but I don't have time to understand it now so I'm filing a placeholder in my head for later) Having those things filed away in your head has a way of putting you on the fence about whether they're true or real or not (they're neither true nor false, just contingent)- and when you're on the fence, partisanship can readily decide the matter without having to supply any evidence.

The purpose of rhetoric like this is not to inform, but to flood its audience with contingent-possible bullshit, to exhaust their critical capacity and render them receptive to even the most counterfactual nonsense you can contrive.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They are too ignorant to have intent. If they knew what they were doing, they’d realize the futility in doing it.

“Why commit yourself to a war you know you’re going to lose?”

Because their blind hate and stupidity compels them, not intentions.

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Plus, you know... money. It's always about money.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Right-wing ideology is neither blind nor stupid.

It exists to protect the status quo. That is it's only reason for existing. And the people at the top is perfectly conscious of what it is they are spouting.

[–] Amends1782@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago

Pretty based thing for a church to say

[–] icdmize@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

So, about the Crusades....

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I believe that what's being taught as history is actually pro establishment rhetoric with stances baked in to convince everyone that effective opposition is "mistakes that never worked before".

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just curious where this was?

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I think it might be in Allendale /s