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[–] Norgur@kbin.social 108 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Thing is: there is always the "next better thing" around the corner. That's what progress is about. The only thing you can do is choose the best available option for you when you need new hardware and be done with it until you need another upgrade.

[–] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 77 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Exactly. The best time to buy a graphics card is never

[–] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

really my rule of thumb has always been when it's a significant upgrade.

for a long time i didn't really upgrade until it was a 4x increase over my old. certain exceptions were occasionally made. nowadays i'm a bit more opportunistic in my upgrades. but i still seek out 'meaningful' upgrades. upgrades that are a decent jump over the old. typically 50% improvement in performance, or upgrades i can get for really cheap.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

4x…? Even in older cards that’s more than a decade between cards.

A 4080 is only 2.5x as powerful as a 1080ti, those are 5 years apart.

[–] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What's wrong with upgrading once every 5-10 years? Not everyone plays the latest games on 4k Ultra

Admittedly 4x is a bit steep, more like 3-4x

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Starfield requires a minimum 1070ti to play. It’s not just about fidelity, you just wouldn’t be able to play any newer games.

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[–] wooki@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It depends on what you need. I think usually you can get the best bang for buck by buying the now previous generation when the new one is released.

[–] miketunes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Yup just picked up a whole PC with rtx3090 for $800.

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[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Graphics card. Not even once.

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[–] hydroel@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah it's always that: "I want to buy the new shiny thing! But it's expensive, so I'll wait for a while for its price to come down." You wait for a while, the price comes down, you buy the new shiny thing and then comes out the newest shiny thing.

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

Yep. There will always be "just wait N months and there will be the bestest thing that beats the old bestest thing". You are guaranteed to get buyers remorse when shopping for hardware. Just buy what best suits you or needs and budget at the time you decided is the best.time for you (or at the time your old component bites the dust) and then stop looking at any development on those components for at least a year. Just ignore any deals, new releases, whatever and be happy with the component you bought.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I bought a 1080 for my last PC build, downloaded the driver installer and ran the setup. There were ads in the setup for the 2k series that had launched the day before. FML

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Yep. I bought a 4080 just a few weeks ago. Now there is ads for the refresh all over... Thing is: you card didn't get any worse. You thought the card was a good value proposition for you when you bought it and it hasn't lost any of that.

[–] alessandro@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

choose the best available option

"The" point. Which is the best available option?

The simplest answer would be "price per fps".

[–] Norgur@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

Not always. I'm doing a lot of rendering and such. So FPS aren't my primary concern.

[–] sederx@programming.dev 17 points 2 years ago

i saw a 4080 on amazon for 1200, shits crazy

[–] Schmuppes@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Major refresh means what nowadays? 7 instead of 4 percent gains compared to the previous generation?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The article speculates a 5% gain for the 4080 super but a 22% gain for the 4070 super which makes sense because the base 4070 was really disappointing compared to the 3070.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Will the price be the same or up to 22% more expensive?

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

You’ll pay 30% more for the honor of owning a 4 series

[–] massive_bereavement@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For anything ML related, having the additional memory is worth the investment, as it allows for larger models.

That said, at these prices it raises the question if it is more sensible to just throw money at GCP or AWS for their GPU node time.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] GarytheSnail@programming.dev 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

All three cards are rumored to come with the same memory configuration as their base models...

Sigh.

[–] Fungah@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Give us more fucking vram you dicks.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

freezes

stands there with my credit card in my hand while the cashier stares at me awkwardly

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

As a Linux gamer, this really wasn't on the cards anyway

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (3 children)

AMD is a better decision, but my nVidia works great with Linux, but I'm on OpenSUSE and nVidia hosts their own OpenSUSE drivers so it works out of the get go once you add the nVidia repo

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[–] joneskind@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It really is a risky bet to make.

I doubt full price RTX 4080 SUPER upgrade will worth it over a discounted regular RTX 4080.

SUPER upgrades never crossed the +10%

I’d rather wait for the Ti version

[–] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

really the RTX 4080 is going to be a sweet spot in terms of performance envelope. that's a card you'll see with some decent longevity, even if it's not being recognized as such currently.

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[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago

Meh I'm still gonna buy a 4070 Ti on Black Friday. Wish I could wait but my other half wants a PC for Christmas.

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