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How many licks would it take? Can the iron in bars even be processed by the body? Can you do this for other minerals?

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[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Some kind of iron piece is given in some African countries to fight iron deficiency by putting it in the food while it's cooking, so it works.

[–] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Not necessarily licking (I mean, if you do it enough...), but this is a thing

Cool story with interesting social, cultural, and scientific interactions.

It may have been discredited outside of simple iron deficiency since I last read about it, but dietary studies on humans are notoriously difficult to do.

[–] glitch1985@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I believe cooking in cast iron pots/pans also provides a source of iron as well.

[–] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Certainly makes sense.

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We used one of these with our daughter when she had a concerning iron deficiency. I'm not super sure if it helped since we also started feeding her more iron containing foods, but it didn't hurt 🤷‍♂️

[–] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This specific thing? Or just an iron chunk of some type?

The reason I know about this is the social aspect of trying to get people with endemic iron deficiency to use a supplement. If you're from the more industrialized would, I'd figure you'd take supplements that, while more expensive, may or may not be more effective.

[–] Cqrd@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

Our daughter was less than 12 months old and had a cow milk protein allergy that was causing her to throw up most of the formula we were giving her (the allergy took us a while to figure out). We opted for trying to improve iron intake before going to pills, though if she was still deficient at her next check up that would have been what we did.

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[–] ALilOff@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I had a bowl of nails this morning…without milk

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] Hupf@feddit.de 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is cursed and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago
[–] Aremel@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Yeah, well I stubbed my toe last week while watering my spice garden, and I only cried for 20 minutes.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Did you at least include the shrimp

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[–] reversebananimals@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A little cat iron puck was introduced in an Asian region with high iron-deficiecy in the poorer population, but nobody used it. So they did some research and changed it to resemble a fish instead and it took right off. Turns out the local culture considered fish lucky or something.

[–] quickhatch@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

I actually teach my students about this strategy that the WHO employee in Micronesia in my sport nutrition class. It's less about the iron fish, and more about that dietary iron can come from cast iron cooking sources instead of supplementation (as the latter often causes digestive distress).

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[–] Davel23@kbin.social 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I saw someone do a demonstration once, they took a box of "iron-fortified" breakfast cereal, dumped it into a bowl, then ran a magnet through it. The magnet picked up some of the dust from the bottom of the bowl, that dust being the tiny iron particles that were added to the cereal to "fortify" it.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

I'm not sure why you're putting those words in quotes as if they're incorrect.

[–] Davel23@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I put them in quotes as the word has no objective meaning as applied to a breakfast cereal, it's simply a marketing term. I did not intend to imply that ingested iron particles are not a valid source of iron for human biology.

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[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

One...

Two-hooo...

Uh-three- breaks beak on iron bar

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

US RDA age 19+ is 8 mg / day. Maybe if the iron bar is really rusty. Or, pills are cents a day. OR you could eat breakfast cereal or liver, lentils or spinach, Popeye.

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/iron-HealthProfessional/#h2

[–] Droechai@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Breakfast cereals made of liver and spinach feel like an unexplored market

[–] zeppo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Licking a rusty bar seems like it would be a good way to abrade your tongue and contract tetanus.

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Tetanus is a bacteria that lives in soil. It's only associated with rust because rust gives more surface area to allow dirt to accumulate on which bacteria can survive, and because iron objects are often sharp enough to pierce the skin. If you were cut with a gleaming razer that had just had soil smeared on it you'd have a good chance of contracting tetanus!

[–] monotremata@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

~~It's also because the bacterium in question is anaerobic, so it dies in an oxygen environment; rusting consumes oxygen, so it helps preserve the bacterium longer out of soil.~~

Edit: I had always been told this, but evidently it isn't true. The rust does not seem to have any effect on the bacterium that causes tetanus. Apologies for spreading misinformation.

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'd be quite surprised if rusting could consume oxygen fast enough to make a difference there?

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[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does that mean I can get tetanus by walking around barefoot outside?

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

If your feet get cut, sure. This is why tetanus vaccine is given as post-exposure prophylaxis in many places if you get a wound that breaks the skin.

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[–] MoodyRaincloud@feddit.nl 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I've read once that eating iron won't do anything for your iron intake, but for example sticking some rusty nails through an apple for a while and then eating the apple would.

I think you'd lose just as much iron if not more iron in the blood you'd lose consuming that apple.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What about sticking 5" iron nails into your nose?

Asking for a friend

[–] LucasWaffyWaf@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

They're about four inches too short, mate.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's hard to imagine there's no culture in the world that would've adopted this as a practice.

[–] BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago

One suggestion in the old days was to stick a nail in an apple for a while and then eat it. The apple of course. Without the nail

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