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How can you order a farmer to destroy their trees? I hope he fights in a higher court. Wish I'd heard about the nectarine giveaway. I'd have gone to pick some.

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[–] cheers_queers@lemmy.zip 157 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Amid the battle, Mora chose to give away the nectarines he had grown instead of leaving them to rot.

​However, on August 13, a jury at Fresno County Superior Court ruled that the Central Valley farmer did break his contract, although Giumarra was awarded no damages, according to documents obtained by the Fresno Bee.

Mora revealed in a video posted to TikTok that a judge had ruled that his trees had to be destroyed before the trial even began.

this is why they dont want us to own the means of production. all of us are glorified slaves who arent entitled to fucking food.

[–] GolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Bruh, the jury and judge are corrupt and terrible people. We Needs more judges and juries who are against corporate greed

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] ViceroTempus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It requires execution. Judges prop up this system and feel they are immune for their judgements. They shouldn't be, and honestly should be among the first targeted to show that no one is above getting guillotined.

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[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

You will own nothing, and you will be happy. Until morale improves.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 145 points 1 week ago (13 children)

I knew it was gonna be this guy...

He licensed a specific breed of fruit tree, which is about the stupidest thing you can do.

Then he signed a marketing agreement, to only sell to that same company, the same one that he licensed it from. Which is literally the dumbest thing possible, because they have a financial incentive to fuck you over the second they establish their own orchids to meet supply. 100% of theirs will always sell first. With prices set as that as the full supply, yours become emergency backup that quickly rots.

Predictably, they refused like 50% of his crop one year.

Then he sold to someone else, and obviously got sued.

The only people who can legally own the trees now, is the company that sued him. And as he's very unlikely to want to sell an established orchid to them, or anyone else who would legally have to do business with that company, they have to be destroyed.

The fruit itself, likely ran out incredibly quickly. This was a huge story a couple months ago.

But it's one thing to do it with crops like wheat and corn that you at least plant every year. Fucking fruit trees live decades. Locking distribution rates without guaranteed sale is just asking to get squeezed out. The company likely planned on buying from him cheap, which again is the reason he's destroying them.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Predictably, they refused like 50% of his crop one year.

They should have been obligated to purchase all of the crop produced to match the restriction on who he could sell to.

[–] anotherandrew@lemmy.mixdown.ca 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s the gotcha. It’s exactly how the judge should have ruled, but that’s what common sense would say, and contract law doesn’t require the contract to adhere to any kind of common sense.

It’s the kind of hole in a contract I’d have expected any competent contract attorney to catch, but perhaps the farmer didn’t use one, which is unfortunate.

[–] Natanael 11 points 1 week ago

Business to business contracts isn't like consumer contracts, if it's not in the contract there's very little protect you

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The farmer, or rather his lawyer, didn't think ahead enough to get that in the contract. Any experienced futures lawyer would have made sure of it.

Hopefully the guy has crop insurance. Or the court rules to make the company pay to cut the trees down. Ideally also gets him some extra money to get a new crop going.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, he'll never farm again. All the fruit he would have grown for people, is gone forever, thanks to this scumbag company.

​“This isn’t going to destroy me, but I’ll tell you this, I’m not going to farm anymore,” he said. “I can’t farm in an industry where a company can treat their growers this way and literally use the legal system to punish them.”​

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 30 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Predictably, they refused like 50% of his crop one year.

Then he sold to someone else, and obviously got sued.

This shit should be illegal. If they want to lock him in to only selling to them, it should be required that they buy everything he's produced at an agreed on rate before he does any work.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 week ago

I watched a documentary about these agricultural practices.

Taking the deal is not always about being dumb, i don’t know about this specific case but farmers are under immense pressure to accept deals from these corporations who often hold real local power.

You will sell your farm or get bullied into complacency.

[–] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 19 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Orchid is a flower, orchard is the word you're looking for.

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[–] untorquer@quokk.au 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

...is just asking to get squeezed out.

Juiced, if you will.

[–] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

And then in court, beaten to a pulp.

[–] chahn.chris@piefed.social 13 points 1 week ago (4 children)

It’s sad that we just make these kinds of legal agreements about living things that take a long time to grow and live and then just capriciously say no sorry you have to slaughter them all because contracts?

We don’t deserve this earth.

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[–] cloudshouter@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why you right escape clauses, requirements to purchase, minimum prices that are based on yearly market value, and say first right to purchase and not exclusive.

It amazes me how badly so many contracts are written. There are enough horror stories online that you almost shouldn’t need a business lawyer to help with the stipulations.

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's still quite arguable that this is a predatory agreement, designed to simply cut competitors. There's not simply an infinite limit to how much you can sign away in a contract. Since farmers often have to operate independently, and there's a (not always undeserved) mistrust of lawyers, it makes sense they'd have to consider some agreements without representation present.

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Locking distribution rates without guaranteed sale is just asking to get squeezed out.

vibe.

[–] stickyprimer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Thank you for this informational and well explained post!

So what’s the guy thinking when he signs these terrible deals? It may be the wrong thing to do but he’s thinking something at the time he does it, right? I don’t buy facile explanations like “he’s dumb” or “because capitalism.”

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Because the company probably promised him the moon, telling him "you don't have to worry about finding buyers or selling at farmers markets, just sell all of your product to us in one lump sum!"

You know how great a deal that is? What he didn't expect is the fine print of them growing their own supply, and then prioritizing selling theirs while half of his crop goes to waste, un-bought, rotting, and all of a sudden his income just got cut in half because of this scumbag company. So what does he do? He sees that it's going to happen again, so he sells the original company all the fruit they would have taken, and a small amount to other sources. Because that's half his freaking income. And the company? Of course, they would rather the fruit spoil and rot, instead of another company or another person at a farmers market selling "their" fruit, that they never paid for but "licensed" in that shitty deal they got him to sign.

It's bullshit, it's immoral, there goes another farmer, and his farm, from this earth. You'll never be able to buy his fruit again.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

It was referenced as a "marketing contract" so it's possible he just legitimately didn't know it was in there, but he's still an idiot for signing contracts without a lawyer even if that was the case.

But I mean, a con job is short for a confidence job.

Dude got manipulated one way or another, same way trump can still somehow hire lawyers and other employees despite decades of openly not paying them.

Usually by exploring greed. They likely made it sound like a favor to him and they didn't normally do it for just anyone.

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[–] Janx@piefed.social 85 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

--John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago
[–] OpenPassageways@programming.dev 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A big part of the problem here is this licensed fruit.

It seems like the guy agreed to grow this fruit that needed to be exclusively licensed or you wouldn't be allowed to grow it.

He also agreed that the company he licensed the fruit from had exclusive rights to buy and market the fruit.

The company with exclusive rights apparently wasn't paying for all the fruit that was grown. Unclear why.

The jury ruled that the farmer broke the contract, but there's so much fucked up about the contract to begin with.

If the company didn't want the fruit, the farmer should be able to sell it or give it away. They decided NOT to exercise their exclusive rights.

And now the trees will be destroyed because they are unlicensed... What a dumb system.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 week ago (23 children)

How do you licence a fucking fruit ? How can you copyright food? Fuck this mf earth

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[–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You have an orchard unapproved by the komisariat, Farmer. You disrupt the logistical system you see. Perhaps you would like to name few names to make punishment more less harsher, yes?

Edit: bah there is a fair explanation for all of this below. Or above, depending on your point of view.

[–] nanometer1625@thelemmy.club 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

a judge had ruled that his trees had to be destroyed before the trial even began.

The article doesn't explain the judge's reasoning for this ruling, and I am struggling to understand why the judge would do this. The whole court case is due to Giumarra Brothers Fruit Company being unhappy that they were not receiving 100% of the nectarines from the trees that they licensed to the farmer. So how does destroying the trees help anyone?

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It does seem like it's just a punishment for being generous.

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[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Mora says that around half of the nectarines provided to Giumarra by him in 2020 were thrown away. That, he alleged, cut into his profits.

I don't think this is an open and shut case. There's got to be some bullshit in the contract about minimum quality thresholds and mandatory order volumes.

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[–] Bluedragon012@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

So, seems like we gonna have to guard our food with violence.

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