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Kinda curious because I want to target certain effects like energy and focus and avoid anything that would couch-lock me.

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[–] deranger@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not accurate whatsoever. It’s not at all based in science, and when cannabis is actually tested, they’re cherry picking samples.

Edit: source!

https://www.iomcworld.com/open-access/cannabinoids-and-terpenes-as-chemotaxonomic-markers-in-cannabis-2329-6836-1000181.pdf

Lots of good info in that source. TL;DR -

The observed data does not support the classification between indica and sativa as it is commonly presented in current cannabis culture.

[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's all 100% bullshit pseudo science that gets regularly regurgitated by rec stores and sadly "medical" professionals and caregivers.

There could be some sort of correlation but nobody understands it or can say for certain.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

THC and CBD are mind altering substances. Their concentration and ratio are what determine effects. We don't measure alcohol strength by the grains used to make it; we measure it by alcohol content. You can buy indica with 30% THC and 0% CBD and indica with 0% THC and 30% CBD and they're going to have way different effects in the same way you can buy grain alcohol at 2% and 40%.

That being said, there isn't a lot of studies on what ratios give what affects and in what dosages. Because of that, it isn't bad to see how people rate a particular product, assuming the product always has the same amounts of THC and CBD.

[–] PutangInaMo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I've become more receptive to this take. Ultimately the differences between sativa and indica are physical and more related to growth and structure. Having dense flowers doesn't effect the contents of it.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

This is not a take. This is fact!

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 2 years ago

On leafly? Basically useless.

Unfortunately, you will need to taste test a strain yourself to see how it effects you.

Theres no hard evidence on why different strains produce different experiences. Some think it is the terpene profile, or the plant age at harvest, or your mentality and expectations and mood, or your personal bodily chemistry, etc.

Maybe its one of these, maybe its a mix. Maybe its something we havent considered.

Sadly, this means no website or budtender can accurately tell you how a strain will make you feel.

In my personal experience? Strains with similar terpene profiles have similar-ish effects. Sour, heavy citrus strains give me headaches and make me anxious, while pine heavy strains make me sleepy and mellow. I trust my nose with strains I do not know.

Try and find a pattern that works for you. Stick with it until the science can catch up.

[–] MycoMadness@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure where leafly pulls data for its effects, it could be terpene profile, customer review, or even minor cannabinoids.

Terpenes can influence a high to feel certain ways, find out what terpenes have the effect you are looking for and target those.

Of course, everyone is unique, so what works best for you for certain effects may differ. However with a little bit of trial and error, and paying attention to the characteristics of how that strain affects you will help you dial in what to look for :)

[–] nodoze313@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it's a nature vs nurture issue, it can be accurate under ideal conditions, but grow conditions vary. With a grain of salt, strains seem to be sort of accurate, but also wildly variant, kind of like dog breeds.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Depends on the grow also. If it’s all clones from a mother plant. This wouldn’t happen.

[–] nodoze313@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, kind of, all I do is clone, different conditions result in different buds, eg duration will definitely change the compound distributions

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Crazy how plants work. Thanks for the info. ❤️

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Search for strains high in THCV. That is the active cannabinoid you are searching for my friend.

[–] Blackout@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

YMMV, I know what the old addage says but for me sativa = headaches while indica = hours working in front of the computer. I think it's what your habits are while smoking. I know people who can drink and code but I can't even use a mouse while on alcohol.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

You’ll in general react to different strains differently. I find that recommendations generally steer me in the right direction, but it’s not the word of god.

Sativas tend towards more energy and brighter highs, but can just as easily have you in the couch.

Indicas tend the opposite, being more mellow.

However, there’s no pure strains of anything anymore, so they’re more trends rather than concrete fact.

Try a bunch of different ones and find something you like. Just like alcohol, you won’t like everything, so try something else.

Personally I prefer indica dominant strains even for energy, as sativas tend to trend towards paranoia for me specifically

[–] livedeified@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I made a fun little chatGPT bot to help with questions like that. https://chat.openai.com/g/g-ZoUQIISf6-terp-genie

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Reviews are ok, but honestly..the best way to look at it

Indica = couch lock sleepy time smoke

Sativa = party time energized smoke

Hybrids will vary obviously.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

That's not true though so there might be better ways to look at it 😬

[–] Whisper06@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pretty much the only thing you can trust is indicas will probably make you sleepy, sativas will probably make you not sleepy and hybrids will be somewhere in between. Keep in mind though there are overlaps and you might not get an indica that makes you sleepy. The terpenes won’t make a much of a difference other than flavor.

[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Another garbage pseudo science take.