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๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ European Citizen's Initiative against ID age verification online

Just yesterday, Stop Killing the Internet, from the people at @StopKillingGames, launched an ECI against ID age verification! This is great but it needs 1 million signatures !

So, if you live in #europe, please sign it! If you don't, or even if you do, still share it around so more people know about it and can sign it!

https://eci.ec.europa.eu/066/public/#/screen/home

Reaching the signature threshold will not mean that ID age verification will immediately become illegal, but the subject will be brought to the @EUCommission and they'll have to do SOMETHING about it. This is already a huge step in the right direction!

:boost_requested: Please boost and share this post to spread the word! Thank you!

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#stopkillingtheinternet #ageverification #privacy

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[โ€“] Frisk@woof.tech 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@helloyanis @StopKillingGames @EUCommission @privacy I'll say what I said under many other posts. The initiative is NOT against age verification mechanism on the Internet. It only claims to be in the slogan, the annex gives EU government pat on the back on their existing work towards EU ID wallet based verification. In all actuality it might actually do more harm than good.

[โ€“] illi@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They want the age verification to be anonymous, no? No personal data other than "yes, I'm 18+". Or did.I miss something?

[โ€“] Frisk@woof.tech 7 points 1 day ago

@illi I do not know who is "they" in your message, but "unlinkability" is a design idea behind Zero Knowledge prrofs. A website communicates with an application, which communicates with government (actual implementation might differ) to ask for cryptographic proof of your trait (such as age).

Government verifies, sends back data to the application which then forwards only signed information about your trait to the website.

The devil is in the details however, as EDRI's Policy Advisor explains (https://youtu.be/euSkCvhzweQ?t=4964). Anonymity is not guaranteed by the European Wallet solution.

This is not to say ZKP's are not a huge improvement in terms of privacy compared to what is being asked from residents of USA or Australia. They are.

I still argue in this discussion however, that even if well designed privacy solution existed, we cannot compromise on it, as the drawbacks of this entire idea are harmful to culture, safety and freedom of all (including children), and this is the real issue with Age Verification laws around the world.

[โ€“] hneerqe@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Something somewhere will have to check your actual ID. There are no magical miracles. I certainly don't trust gov IT infrastructure. It's a convoluted patchwork built over the years with varying degrees of incompetence and corruption.

[โ€“] hneerqe@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Sadly, I want to sign a "No verification whatsoever, fuck off with your shit, you don't fool me" not a "p-p-p-please atleast pretend to make it less distopian"

[โ€“] helloyanis@furries.club 3 points 1 day ago

Moving this to the replies since it's less important, but I'm the dev of a #firefox add-on to get past age verification on some of these sites so that's great news for me too!

https://github.com/helloyanis/age-verification-bypass

#privacy #ageverification