It’s one extreme or the other, either new atheists end up seeing the oppressive aspects of organized religion as just one aspect of a larger oppressive political economy and go leftist, or they become right wing nationalists cultural Christians. They don’t believe in it but they also see the systems and practices as being the thing that gives rise to rational Western society, as opposed to the savages with their undeveloped cultural/religious practices.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago

Alas, it is none other than Lord Commander St. Bhagavan Shree Matt Christman (SWT) awaits at the end...

large-adult-son

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's kind of like anime avatars: some atheists do become comrades, others become full blown chuds, some even finding their way back to religion by way of up-yours-woke-moralists or techbro occultism.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I kind of want to cross techbro occultism with revolutionary optimism.

Capitalism can never build the machine god; only collective action motivated purely by scientific curiosity will ever create true intelligences.

When the machine god comes she will simulate the minds of all martyrs and raise them from the dead to see the future they created!

... or something

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

I'd be down to clown for that. I'd see it as a new kind of liberation theology.

It's too bad it didn't go that way. I know why: billionaires took over so-called "futurology" conferences and meet-ups a long time ago, and since the so-called "extropian" movements of the 90s, it's primarily been billionaire worship with future fever dream characteristics.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

atheism -> intersectional feminism -> communism

[–] manuallybreathing@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Within the left–right political spectrum, Left and Right were coined during the French Revolution, referring to the seating arrangement in the French Estates General. Those who sat on the left generally opposed the Ancien Régime and the Bourbon monarchy and supported the Revolution, the creation of a democratic republic and the secularisation of society[7]

the left, has always been secular by definition ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A lot's happened since 1800, I think we can value the input of our religious buds and religious Marxists while still keeping in mind that materialism is the lenses we used for a reason

[–] GhostSpider@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

I support people to pursue whatever religion they want, but the society should be secular.

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

Can confirm. Got converted by Hexbear over the last few months on Lemmy

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ya know it's wild these folks still exist, I'm amazed AA didn't just like go into IT or something but idk if that'd be impossible considering his decently high profile

[–] Grebgreb@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Amazing Atheist fun fact: there is a video of him shoving a banana up his ass. A few years ago he tweeted something that Jk Rowling saw and somehow she became aware of the banana video. A billionaire may have seen a video of a youtuber shoving a banana up his ass because of her obsession with twitter.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Less fun fact: he has wished horrible things to SV victims for the crime of arguing with him. He's a piece of shit and I despise him. CW (rape, misogyny) for the exact words he used:

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He wished that the SV victim would "drown in rape cum."

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And in that very same comment he called the victim "mean-spirited." Because irony is dead.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I still remember that time I criticized the abuse of Mortal Kombat game development employees and was told that I was being basically that, mean-spirited, to one user that contended that game development employees have such cushy jobs that it should not matter if they're exposed to gore and snuff videos as a mandate to keep their jobs making Mortal Kombat because they could supposedly easily find work somewhere else, and that gore/death "fidelity" was that important for his treats that he was fine with the workers being traumatized (by their own accounts, including needing therapy) to maintain that "fidelity." When I said coerced worker abuse is still abuse and that the "fidelity" imperative of Mortal Kombat's fatalities (which I haven't actually liked ever since the comic book like violence turned to edgy "realism" in later installments myself) was a terrible justification for such abuse, I was told (cw: suicide, gore)

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to literally slit my own throat and then that same user whined in additional replies that I was "mean-spirited" and "ungenerous" in my response thus why he wished me to slit my own throat, and after I said it was fucking disgusting to wish death to someone over a treat, he clarified in a follow-up post "I don't wish death to anyone BUT YOU" like the treatbrained crybully he was. frothingfash

[–] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Didn't he awkwardly proposition skepchick and then get real weird about her saying no or am I thinking of someone else.

[–] Grebgreb@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

I think that was someone else at an atheist convention if I'm thinking of the right thing

[–] professionalduster@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

TJ is left now? when did that happen

[–] dead@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I think that TJ may be left in a v*ush-type way. TJ has always had reactionary beliefs while claiming to be liberal. As the other comment mentions, he was pro-Bernie in 2016 and I remember at the time there some attempts to make TJ the face of the "bernie bros" because he was pro-Bernie while also having made sexist content. Despite TJ making sexist and somewhat racist content up until at least 2016, he was still anti-republican and in some ways pro-LGBT from the start.

In the recent years, maybe since covid, his position seemed to change from antiwoke/anti-SJW to prowoke/proSJW, in his terminology. In the video of the thumbnail of this post, TJ is arguing against an antiwoke youtuber. I don't think he's actually read any left economic theory like Marx or Kropotkin or whoever. He had a video 1-2 years ago where he said that he was refusing to read theory because he was lazy.

The most recent interaction I could find between TJ and V*ush was 8 days ago on a podcast called Deep Fried Fat, podcast owned by TJ also features his friend Paulsego and his brother Scotty. I skimmed a few minutes of the 2 hour video and it seems like V*ush is arguing that people should vote for Biden in 2024 and everyone else is arguing against voting for Biden.

It would be funny if he was on hexbear but more likely one of his fans gave him the meme image. I am happy that he has somewhat changed his ways, he's no longer leading the anti-SJW youtube, but I still can't stand to watch his videos.

[–] Orannis62@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh cool, so he's literally just another shoeonhead, another ex gamergater asshole who everyone will pretend is left because he wants healthcare until he inevitably goes mask off and everyone pretends they were never taken in by his "change"

[–] LesbianLiberty@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

seems like V*ush is arguing that people should vote for Biden in 2024

dafoe-horror

[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

Been a few years I think. I'm pretty sure it began around Sanders' 2015 ascendency but could be wrong, I've seen TAA two times in the last decade.

[–] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

It is wild how much of the atheism movement was just weaponizing white supremacy to fight god.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago

Is this some other type of Blade? The only Blade I know is the vampire hunter played by Wesley Snipes