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Biden Moves to Lift Restrictions on ALL U.S. Weapons to Israel (www.kenklippenstein.com)

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Biden seeks to "allow for the transfer of all categories of defense articles," his request states

The White House has formally requested the removal of restrictions on all categories of weapons Israel is allowed to access from U.S. weapons stockpiles in the country, as I reported in detail for The Intercept today. So you know I’m not exaggerating, here’s a screenshot of the request:

The request would also remove nearly all other limits on Israel’s ability to access the U.S. weapons stockpiles — permanently —by doing the following:

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[+] penquin@lemm.ee 78 points 2 years ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

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[–] MarmaladeMermaid@lemm.ee 51 points 2 years ago (19 children)

Yeah, it’s been “hold your nose and vote for the least insane” for a long time now, but more the choice is “the guy who supports genocide” or “the guy who really really supports genocide.”

Fucking two party first post the post bullshit. This is going to get Trump elected when the people who cant bear to vote for genocide stay home or vote third party.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If Israel is your issue, you're going to have to find another differentiator... like how Trump wants to end democracy as we know it and Biden does not.

[–] MarmaladeMermaid@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

That’s what I’m saying. I’m just heartbroken that I’ll have to vote for someone unapologetically funding genocide with my tax money.

What’s the fucking point of democracy if I still have to vote for genocide in order to avoid the end of “democracy.”

[–] WHARRGARBL@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

The Democratic National Convention of August, 1968 was in Chicago. It was marked by massive riots, after the April and June assassinations of the Rev Martin Luther King Jr and Democratic POTUS candidate Robert Kennedy, respectively. It was triggered by many issues, including anti-Vietnam War sentiment.

Interestingly, the August, 2024 DNC will be in Chicago. Maybe it’s time for the people of the United States to come together for another “year that breaks America”, and fight for the need to eliminate the DNC/RNC corporate stranglehold and work toward establishing a ranked voting system.

Or we could continue to choose between happy uncle fascist or bloated grifter fascist.

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[–] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago (10 children)

In what universe would Trump be a better alternative?

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[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

I think you forgot how the voters have the memory of a goldfish

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He's certainly lost the Muslim vote.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (7 children)

"Defense," my ass.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The fuck is wrong with people. They're over there committing what amounts to genocide, and we just shrug and selling them more weapons?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's called capitalism, look it up

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oh heavens thank you, I couldn't possibly have known that if you didn't respond with a snarky comment.

[–] TheaoneAndOnly27@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think they may have been referencing this meme, but it didn't land and wasn't a great joke tbh.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-called-fashion-look-it-up

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Ah, yeah, that makes more sense.

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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wait, why haven’t we done this with Ukraine? Israel can fend for itself and we really shouldn’t be helping them more than we already are.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait, why haven’t we done this with Ukraine?

Russia has nukes.

The Palestinians do not.

[–] Stowaway@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We probably should help them half as much as we are.

[–] Isthisreddit@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

They don't need any help, it's laughable to even call it a war. Israel could level all of gaza in a heartbeat

[–] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Biden is a good guy, but damn if he isn't stuck in the past. Every decision he makes seems like it would've made sense if it was still 1998. This is something Clinton probably would've done and everyone would've loved him for it, but the world has moved on, and people now understand the situation there is not as black and white as they thought.

[–] holland@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

You have a weird definition of a good guy.

Good guys don't support genocide. Good guys don't strip away pandemic protections. Good guys don't allow health insurance to be stripped away from millions of people.

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[–] halfempty@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I must admit, I don't get why Biden would go so wholeheartedly pro Israel here. I get that the US has been allies with Israel for decades, and we would probably continue that. But his support goes further, and gets out of balance in terms of public perception of Israel (which does have broad public support), and a clear genocide of Palestinians in Gaza which also has broad public recognition. He probably would have been better to try to thread the needle between the two.

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[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

Doing the opposite of what we should be doing is supposed to be the Republicans' job.

[–] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow! That's crazy!

You mean that there were restrictions on weapons we went to Israel?

[–] Stamau123@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

This is about allowing Israel to access all weapons in the US stockpile in Israel, not ALL U.S. weapons in general as title implies.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Screw the FTSE100, invest in weapons!!

Also non-AMP and referral-free link: https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/biden-moves-to-lift-restrictions

[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Here's one better; no pay wall.

https://archive.ph/3QWpO