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    For those who couldn't read the Linux GUI:

    • Windows used 3.4 GB / 8GB
    • Linux used 800 MB/ 8 GB
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    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    I know this is !LinuxMemes but it'll throw this here. Comparing memory usage like this is meaningless. My Linux desktop for example consumes around 20GB with nothing visibly started. ZFS would happily gobble up half of the system RAM for caching unless limited. And caching means speed. If your system isn't caching a lot, it might be leaving speed on the table. Demand caching!

    [–] Slotos@feddit.nl 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    RAM is the fastest and most expensive memory in your PC. It uses energy, regardless of whether you use the memory. Not utilising RAM is a waste of resources.

    There’s a reason good monitoring tools draw a stacked RAM chart.

    [–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    Exactly. I wish we moved to a process lifecycle that has a "save your data because you're dying upon the return from this function" stage, similar to the way Android has it. That would allow us to keep a lot more processes in RAM. But it would require massive software changes given the body of software written the classical way and so it's unlikely to happen.

    [–] Samsy@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

    Ask devs how many issue reports they gather about app consumes too much ram.

    [–] Krtek@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I don't get why this is always mentioned. Windows caches too and uses up all free space for faster application startup, but just because it also does it doesn't change the fact that it uses more ram for active processes while doing nothing. I remember Minecraft running a lot better on my old MacBook with just 4gb of ram as Ubuntu used less than Mac OS X and I could allocate more to the game, whether cacheing was enabled or not on those OSes was not relevant. This should not be relevant today as 32gb of ram can be purchased for less than 100 bucks but sadly is as Apple and other laptop manufacturers think selling soldered 8gb is ok for a base model in 2023 for a laptop costing more than 300 bucks

    [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    I've never owned a laptop that didn't have upgradeable RAM.

    I also don't pay for Apple products so that might be why. Vote with your wallets and stop buying their overpriced metal bullshit.

    [–] Krtek@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    The ancient MacBook in question has a firmware limitation and thus only supports 4gb, it was already upgraded from 2gb iirc (black 2007 MacBook 3,1). My current laptop has 16gb soldered, too bad that the hinge will die again before the ram becomes insufficient

    [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

    Holy crap that's a long lived laptop.

    [–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    So what you're saying is that Windows makes better use of available memory, by actually using it, than Linux? Unused memory does nothing for you.

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

    Its not even a good comparison. I had GUI Linux running on a Wii console. I think Wii has 100MB of RAM.

    [–] callyral@pawb.social 5 points 2 years ago

    shouldn't the videos be swapped? like, having the music "dread" part be when he sees how much ram windows uses?

    [–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Doesn't Windows reserve ram though, so it's idle just looks higher?

    I'd imagine it'd be more relevant how their ram usage looks during peaks. I still think it'd be more in Linux's favor, but not as much.

    [–] ares35@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

    iirc, 'in use' memory as reported by task manager does include some file cache memory space.

    [–] 520@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

    Linux does the same. It's the orange bar in the group output

    [–] devilish666@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

    Sometimes i wonder why Windows use RAM so much compared to Linux ?
    I check Linux run so much service in the background but used so little RAM compared to Windows that run not so many service but still used RAM so much like my PC running supercomputer programs

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 years ago

    That's not ideal. You should be seeing more used for disk cacheing.