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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 158 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

About time

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub

ActivityPub is a standard for the Internet in the Social Web Networking Group of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C). The standard was co-authored by Evan Prodromou, creator of StatusNet (now known as GNU social). At an earlier stage, the name of the protocol was "ActivityPump", but it was felt that ActivityPub better indicated the cross-publishing purpose of the protocol. It is the most widely supported standard (by some margin) in the Fediverse.

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[–] ruk_n_rul@monyet.cc 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean W3C created ActivityPub, it's only fitting they peruse what they had created

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Peruse" means to read carefully.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

There are many memes to be perused

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

When the nerds that invent and maintain the internet do something then I know it means something

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 79 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Let the web2 exodus, BEGIN!!!!!!

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is "web2" a thing? I've only ever heard it used by web3 shills, and never outside of Twitter or LinkedIn.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I remember the term being thrown around a lot in the early days of Youtube. The optimism of the internet being mostly based on dynamic content created by real humans all over the world, with a lower barrier to entry than before.

The internet was a much different place before social media platforms basically took over.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Wasn't that slightly different, in that people were referring to Web 2.0 as the rise in dynamic content, and interactive web pages/applications?

[–] nervoushair@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

web2 has some sort of actual technical meaning, web3 is crypto nonsense.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does it? I remember Web 2.0 being a thing many years ago, but the only time I see web2 mentioned is either around social media or to describe "the old web" - both only used to shill web3 as "the future".

[–] cashews_best_nut@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I was around for the dawn of Web2.0 as a web developer. It was used for a group of tech and design such as Ajax and rounded corners. You could say it was the next step after flat HTML pages that included more dynamic front ends with JS, CSS3 and HTML5.

[–] FaizalR@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago

I just followed them on Mastodon a few days ago.

[–] Yoz@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hope everyone from twitter moves to mastodon.

[–] pizzawithdirt@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Please no, no need for political extremists and bots on Mastodon.

[–] ImADifferentBird@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago

Hey, some bots are cool. There are even whole instances devoted to bots, like botsin.space.

Spambots can go to hell though, along with their creators.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago

I mean too late for that, considering both Truth Social and Gab use Mastodon forks. The good thing is that you can just defederate from them.

[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

This is great. A big thing like W3C switching to Mastodon surely will have an impact

[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago
[–] Fitik@fedia.io 6 points 2 years ago
[–] Maeve@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They went downhill after ms got control anyway.

[–] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social -4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah screw the w3c. Only use they got these days is for html tutorials.

[–] lea@feddit.de 75 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Fun fact: w3schools has nothing to do with w3c and there used to be a whole website dedicated to giving them shit. They've apparently gotten much better these days though.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Honestly I have much less of a problem with some degree of inaccurate info than wasting my time by not immediately geting to the point in concisely giving me the bit of syntax I was searching for to begin with. That's what they've always got right that other sources were getting wrong.

[–] Tag365@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure that trademarks were invented so companies could prevent confusion like this by using the legal system. That way no-one can try profiting off a similar branding, and no-one can harm their reputation by making poor products apparently in another company's name. W3C has a trademark registration for their name. https://www.w3.org/trademarks/

[–] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh so I have absolutely no reason to even like w3c at all? Dont use w3cschools much anymore these days. I know they have other stuff for more languages but theres better resources when it comes to those.

[–] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What’s your issue with the W3C?

[–] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They allowed for the inclusion of DRM into HTML5. This DRM is not open-source, can't even be source audited and refused to back down. Such a move caused the EFF (electronic frontier foundation) to resign from the group. Here's the EFF's letter where they outline these issues if you want to give it a read: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/09/open-letter-w3c-director-ceo-team-and-membership

I could also write about them bowing to Google but the DRM thing annoys me more.

And then Tim Berners-Lee has the audacity to complain about the state of the internet. Something his group could've actually stopped or slowed.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 40 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)
[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Big +1 for MDN.

The Mozilla Developer Network should be considered the standard reference for frontend HTML, CSS, and JavaScript.

(Aside from, you know, the actual standards. But those documents aren't exactly approachable for new developers.)

[–] DarkenLM@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago
[–] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah. Forgot that exists. Their image-border generator was far better than the w3c equivalent.