this post was submitted on 22 Dec 2023
276 points (93.7% liked)

Lemmy Shitpost

32387 readers
3063 users here now

Welcome to Lemmy Shitpost. Here you can shitpost to your hearts content.

Anything and everything goes. Memes, Jokes, Vents and Banter. Though we still have to comply with lemmy.world instance rules. So behave!


Rules:

1. Be Respectful


Refrain from using harmful language pertaining to a protected characteristic: e.g. race, gender, sexuality, disability or religion.

Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.

...


2. No Illegal Content


Content that violates the law. Any post/comment found to be in breach of common law will be removed and given to the authorities if required.

That means:

-No promoting violence/threats against any individuals

-No CSA content or Revenge Porn

-No sharing private/personal information (Doxxing)

...


3. No Spam


Posting the same post, no matter the intent is against the rules.

-If you have posted content, please refrain from re-posting said content within this community.

-Do not spam posts with intent to harass, annoy, bully, advertise, scam or harm this community.

-No posting Scams/Advertisements/Phishing Links/IP Grabbers

-No Bots, Bots will be banned from the community.

...


4. No Porn/ExplicitContent


-Do not post explicit content. Lemmy.World is not the instance for NSFW content.

-Do not post Gore or Shock Content.

...


5. No Enciting Harassment,Brigading, Doxxing or Witch Hunts


-Do not Brigade other Communities

-No calls to action against other communities/users within Lemmy or outside of Lemmy.

-No Witch Hunts against users/communities.

-No content that harasses members within or outside of the community.

...


6. NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.


-Content that is NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.

-Content that might be distressing should be kept behind NSFW tags.

...

If you see content that is a breach of the rules, please flag and report the comment and a moderator will take action where they can.


Also check out:

Partnered Communities:

1.Memes

2.Lemmy Review

3.Mildly Infuriating

4.Lemmy Be Wholesome

5.No Stupid Questions

6.You Should Know

7.Comedy Heaven

8.Credible Defense

9.Ten Forward

10.LinuxMemes (Linux themed memes)


Reach out to

All communities included on the sidebar are to be made in compliance with the instance rules. Striker

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
all 45 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 104 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] idunnololz@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Bring back "Look around you"

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] stefenauris@pawb.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] critical@reddthat.com 6 points 2 years ago

It's classified.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

New albumen! It's out now!

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 91 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Whemp, video doesn't lie. I guess the first law of thermodynamics is wrong.

[–] jettrscga@lemmy.world 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well it is now.

First law of thermodynamics: You don't talk about thermodynamics

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Third law of thermodynamics: Someone yells stop, goes limp, taps out, the dynamic is over.

Fourth law of thermodynamics: Only two thermos to a dynamic.

Fifth law of thermodynamics: One dynamic at a time

Sixth law of thermodynamics: No shirts, no shoes

Seventh law of thermodynamics: dynamics will go on as long as they have to

Eighth law of thermodynamics; if this is your first thermo, you have to dynamic.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sixth law of thermodynamics: No labcoats, no clipboards

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago
[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Don't get me started about the 34th law of thermodynamic

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Is that the one about what is and isn't a sandwich?

[–] Rizoid@programming.dev 32 points 2 years ago (13 children)

I'm a big stupid and can come one smart explain why this doesn't work in reality?

[–] lsd@lemmy.world 72 points 2 years ago

The magnet is not pulling the car, the hand holding the magnet is pulling the car.

[–] Jerkface@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I know there are a lot of replies already, but I feel like the best way to explain is it's similar to trying to push a car while you're in it.

[–] _danny@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

I think this is the best answer. Just because magnetism is not visible doesn't make it magic. The source of the forces doesn't change where those forces go. A lot of these perpetual motion machines can be simplified to a situation that makes intuitive sense.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Basically, as much as the magnet on the car is pushing it forward, the magnet on the stick is pulling it back and it doesn't go anywhere.

[–] Kase@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So, hypothetically, what if we replaced the magnet on the stick with a stronger magnet? (I'm sure this wouldn't work, I just don't know why it wouldn't work lol)

[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

The same. The attraction from one magnet to the other is the same on each magnets. If one is stronger, the total attraction is higher, but still the same on both ends.

[–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Every force has an equal and opposite reaction.

When you are holding the magnet in front of the car you are pulling the car along through the magnetic attraction between the magnets, and the car is pulling the magnet back towards itself with equal force. However, you can just pull the magnet away as the car gets closer. When you do so you are transferring the force the car is imparting on you into the ground you are standing on.

If you were to now get on top of the car and hold the magnet in front of it the magnet you are holding would be pulled towards the car, and the car towards it. However, since you are on top of the car, instead of the force the car is imparting on you going into the ground (allowing you to keep moving the magnet away from the car) it would go back into the car. This force going back into the car is identical to the force the magnet you are holding is imparting on the car. As such they cancel each other out and the car does not move.

If you repeat the above, but replace the magnet with a rope, it's a lot more clear why it doesn't work. You can't pull on a rope while sitting on a car and expect the car to move. The magnetic force is the rope, and you pulling on the magnet is the same as pulling on the rope.

[–] niktemadur@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

One magnet does not pull on the other, both are pulling on each other.

[–] Sallp@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

It is both pushing and pulling at the same time.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago

In simplest terms, the two magnets are trying to pull toward each other equally. But when you glue them on the board, that glue holds the magnets apart, and "pushes" them the same amount that the magnets "pull" towards each other, hence no movement.

There would only be a movement if one side was pulling more than the other. The hand is providing that imbalance at first which moved the car.

[–] match@pawb.social 10 points 2 years ago

It doesn't work because, while the front magnet is pulling the car magnet forward, the car magnet is also pulling the front magnet backwards and the front magnet is also attached to the car, so it cancels out.

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] kwirky@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

I haven't been able to locate the link again, but the full video shows they're using a hairdryer to push it.

[–] Starbuck@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago

It’s probably just on a slight incline. Much simpler

[–] Johanno@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 years ago

Ok when not glued: both magnets get pulled to each other. The hand has to use some force in order to stay in place, so the car moves.

When glued: both magnets still get pulled to each other, but now the force is cancelled out since the force that would pull it forward also has to be used to hold the other in place.

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 5 points 2 years ago

Magnet want to pull and stick to each other of the different pole. When it glued to the car, the one on the cardboard will want to move toward the car and the one on the front hood will want to move toward the cardboard. The force cancel each other out so no movement will happen.

[–] hawgietonight@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

In this situation the magnets act much like a spring, so imagine changing the magnets on the stick and the car for a simple spring. That is much more easier to visualize.

[–] Slow@lemmy.today 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I think it's the same as trying to give a sailboat acceleration by trying to blow the sails while standing on deck.

[–] lemmefixdat4u@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Not quite the same as the two magnets. If you have a big fan and a square sail, you're moving air, which has mass and is not attached to the boat. That alone will cause a force that moves the boat backwards. The moving air that hits the sail will not fully cancel that force due to frictional losses and air spillage from the edges.

Racing yachts are a different story. They have rigid sails that are shaped like airfoils. Blowing across an airfoil causes lift. So a big fan blowing perpendicular to the axis of the boat across such a sail would move the boat forward. But it's much more efficient for the fan to blow backwards without the sail, hence airboats and hovercraft.

[–] JohnSwanFromTheLough@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If you could scale the strength of blowing all the way up this would actually work though no?

For example, if you were in a light kayak with a mini sail and had a high powered leaf blower pointing at the sail, would that work?

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

The magnets are not pulling it forward.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 years ago

My favorite part of any perpetual motion machine is where they hide the battery

[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 years ago

Cover yourself in oil

[–] Seeker 8 points 2 years ago

No one is commenting about the magnet on the back of the car and possibly a magnet in the person's hand causing the rear magnet to repel against the hand magnet?

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Oh yeah, it's big brain time

[–] jenny_ball@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

very funny though i love it