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[–] themurphy@lemmy.world 139 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Spotify is saying it's "a real blow to innovation".

Honestly wtf they on about. 1-2% tax on their massive multi million platform, and the tax goes directly to support music in the country.

Fuck Spotify.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Spotify still can’t figure out how to make a profit even with all their subscribers. Theo the 1% tax adds to their loss. Still fuck Spotify.

[–] 8bitguy@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have a good idea of where they could have found about $200M.

[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh yeah. Innovation from Spotify. Like their great recent one, copying TikTok for a few weeks.

[–] Johandea@feddit.nu 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What are you on about?! Spotify innovates all the time. Almost every week I'm greeted with a new way to fuck up their app and/or service. That's impressive! 😐

Also fucking recommending me podcasts even though I just want to listen to music

[–] LemmyHead@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Innovation my ass. Their UI has been as a disaster as ever. Major reason why I stopped paying for their crappy service years ago

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wait, what does "to support music in the country" mean? Spotify already pays the majority of their revenue to record labels. That is funding for the music industry. Aren't French labels a part of this scheme?

Not a Spotify fan, just thinking about this on the basis of some facts I'm aware of.

[–] blargerer@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its not unusual for countries outside the biggest media producers (like the US for instance) to have rules in place to make sure there is continued local cultural output.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ah similar to Canadian content (CanCon) policies in Canada. Got it.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When a huge company pulls out if a country due to its laws affecting their ability to make money, it should tell you that the company in question only has its status due to exploiting something that should be being regulated.

[–] Pepsi@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Or that a quant figured out it would be cheaper to cut staff and stop operating in a specific region vs pay extra fees to continue operating in that region.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Well yes... Or that the government has enacted laws to extract rent from international companies.

[–] SquiffSquiff@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'm in the UK. Spotify family subscription is £17.99/month (US$ 22.84). Same price as Netflix premium, although I have Netflix standard at £10.99 (US$ 13.96). Now, I know that they give a high percentage to the record companies, source says 70% but really? What are they doing over there? They seem to have some fundamental problems. With Netflix, my history, watchlist, search results, etc. are consistent across sessions and devices. Spotify can't manage this. Netflix of course produce a significant quantity of original content. Spotify do a few live music sessions. I don't think that the user experience with Spotify has changed significantly in the last 6 years that I have been a customer.

So they're not making money. They're not improving the user experience or meeting the market standard for it. They're not producing original content and they seem unable to comply with local laws. Why have they not been disrupted by one of their competitors?

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

Tbh I prefer the different play sessions between devices of device A is offline.
That way I have my work playlist at work and my home playlist at home ready to play.

[–] PlantObserver@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Anecdotally, about 25% of my circle have moved to various other services, so maybe not a huge disruption but they're definitely losing some customers to competitors at least

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] 8bitguy@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I like Deezer.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

I'm experimenting with Synology music without subscription.

[–] triptrapper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've been using Tidal for a couple years and I don't miss Spotify ever. Same price, higher quality, and they don't pollute my screen with endless recommendations.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If you ask support they will tell you that they're recommendations, not ads. 😂. Like fuck off. I don't want full screen ads. I want music. Also forget podcasts. God damn.

[–] daft61lunacy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Innovating ways to pay less the artists.

[–] timtoon@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Also known as divesting, smdh