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[–] BustinJiber@lemmy.world 68 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So the asshole who posted this claims after we die and go to heaven it's going to be the same shit that we have right now?!

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 74 points 2 years ago

Somebody has to mine the gold the streets are paved with.

[–] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is a singular authoritarian dictator. You may not disobey. The punishment for your first infraction is eternal torture.

But otherwise...yes. Getting to heaven is about winning, and you can't be a winner without there being losers.

[–] evranch@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

you can't be a winner without there being losers

There's no biblical reasoning why everyone can't go to heaven, losers are not mandatory. In fact in Christianity, "Jesus died for your sins," so supposedly you get a free pass as long as you aren't a big piece of shit.

It's the Jehovah's witnesses that think there is limited space in heaven, it's what motivates them to convert everyone. By converting so many unbelievers, they'll rise up the ranks and get that heaven spot for themself. The people they converted? Doomed to hell, I suppose. A sacrifice to get them into heaven.

JWs are pretty messed up.

[–] MyFairJulia@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

TIL that Watchtower Society runs christianity like a Ponzi scheme

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Classless?!?! Haha, someone look up the heaven flow chart (yes really) for Mormons. 3 levels of heaven and outer darkness (hell). For those that make it to the top, congrats on being a god! You and your many wives will enjoy eternity as you crush the hopes and dreams of your own creation.

[–] optissima@lemmynsfw.com 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Sanyanov@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Username checks out

[–] Randomunemployment@lemmings.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not exclusive to Mormons. Devine comedy dictates different levels of heaven. Enoch also states levels of heaven.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

To be honest the Divine Comedy is fanfiction and not canon

Granted but it is held in high regard by many popes, including the current.

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Oh I was gonna say same thing!

Don't forget that in Mormon only heaven, there are three ranks there! Also women swear to serve their husband's.

So to be the highest rank you have to be a male priesthood holder rank 1 of celestial kingdom.

[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Many believe the early church was marxist ("had all things in common", etc).

[–] oce@jlai.lu 37 points 2 years ago

Or they just read what is said about Jesus in the bible? Marx didn't invent the concept of helping the poor by sharing.

[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

Jesus was a communist (even if an utopian/idealist one)

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Including their women. There are little hints. Paul seems worked up about permissive sex going around, the earliest Gospel has Jesus spend a surprisingly high amount of time, for a rabbi, alone with women. James and Cephus would need a motivation to keep the failing Jerusalem church going, Mary Magedlian seems to have made enemies where she is accused of being permissive (every conservative accusation is a confession), records of lots of children of James, and a cryptic stuff about how there would be no gender in the future and no gender before Jesus. The last line was uttered by a person who told people to unquestionably follow James.

History of early Christianity makes so much sense if you just treat it like any other cult. Sex, money, power. James and Cephus didn't have money or power so what else could it be?

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

Gotta pay for your place in heaven of course.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

But it's okay because they made everyone else's life a living hell. They deserve it.

/s

[–] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Classless? Having almost everyone be forced to eternally worship one dude sounds like classes to me.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Also, not everyone get to go to heaven. Only the "worthy".

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

And worthy is largely arbitrary and contradictory... So god is a fascist, apparently...

[–] ollie@codesink.io 3 points 2 years ago

And also genderless

[–] Halvdan@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Communism isn't realistic, you see. Only our realistic and nonfictional god can make something like that and only if you're dead first. Now, get back to work!

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If communism isn’t realistic, then why do I live in a community? Checkmate theists!

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

If communism isn’t realistic, then why do I live in a community? Checkmate theists!

[–] fossphi@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I mean, I get it. But what exactly is being produced in heaven such that the workers own the means of its production?

[–] 52fighters@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

St. Thomas Aquinas taught that in the natural law all property was part of the commons and that only human law changed this.

I think the major Christian objection to communism is the materialist dialectic.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz -1 points 2 years ago

Arguably, in heaven all resources are ready and abundant, while on earth everything takes time and effort.

So yeah, if you can just pick a freshly baked pizza from the next tree anytime, why would you need any incentive to work on anything?

On the other hand, on earth, pizzas take time and resources to make. Hence if one person makes pizza, that person may not want to give it to people who simply choose to do nothing all day.

Concluding, this comparison does not really work.