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[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 97 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Time to start a nonprofit that cleans up old machines and installs Linux on them for deserving poor folks.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Already done in France by Emmaüs, they even have their own Ubuntu based distro.

[–] SonnyVabitch@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Be the change etc...

[–] jaypg@lemmy.jaypg.pw 4 points 2 years ago

Tons already exist. If you’re in the Pacific Northwest then make your donations to https://www.freegeek.org

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 76 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The landfill is a rude thing to call linux

[–] oo1@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

new fork of legacyOS into LandfillOS.
based on "De Bin"
The only major change needs to be you save stuff by putting it into the wastebasket.

[–] clegko@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not wrong calling the rabid fan base that though...

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[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

That's what I'm talking about. I just picked up a dell optiplex micro for about $100 on ebay.

Can't wait to see what the corps dump onto the market post-win11 apocalypse!

[–] WolfhoundRO@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Time to make cheap Linux servers out of Windows 10 unknowledgeable seller's hardware

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Man, we should make computers upgradable or something.

[–] BugFinder@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wouldn't someone think of the poor shareholders

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[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Send the 7th Gen and better ones to me for plex servers.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

J5005 is a transcoding hero, just point it at a NAS and away you go.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Why am I just learning about this $80 thin system right now?

My current server runs around 80 watts idle,but it's also my gaming pc. I'd love to replace it with something dedicated that can handle direct streaming 4k with the occasional transcode around the house, at less wattage.

[–] Finadil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Why not a N100 though? Faster, lower TDP, and it's built in graphics supports hardware AV1 decoding (J5005 doesn't).

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Cost. You can pick up a j5005 machine for $35 on eBay.

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[–] lemba@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

My ASRock J4125b performes quite well too... 😎😜

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Installing Linux will save them. 240M computers.

[–] extremelyfasttortoise@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah good luck explaining how to install, use and maintain Linux to people who can barely do email.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not gonna tell them to install Arch from scratch. I'd wipe-install Pop for 10$ because it's literally just clicking "next" a couple of time while watching TV.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Installing Lime and Untabu is easy as hell. The issue is games. I cannot with good confidence intall it on my kid's laptop and think it won't break to play what he wants to play. We are divorced. It happens. But devs for Pete's sake, make games work on every OS. It's not your choice what we need for our PC needs.

[–] lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I used to feel that way too, but after trying games on Linux again recently (got a steam deck) I have yet to find a single game that doesn't work on Linux at this point. I'm not even exaggerating, literally every game I've tried works without issue, even if it's "Windows only".

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I have yet to get Fortnite and Fall guys to work. I know there is a steam deck work around. But getting them to work has not ended in a success yet.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 2 years ago

I'll figure it out before dropping 500+ bucks on a new PC.

[–] ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 years ago

Learning how to use open source alternatives to proprietary software on Windows is the starting point before transition to Linux.

[–] SereneHurricane@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Oh man. What a headache. I'm a seasoned Linux user but I couldn't get my Nvidia GPU working on my Linux machine.

I had to switch back to Windows to be productive

[–] ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

Before that, learning how to use open source alternatives to proprietary software on Windows is the starting point before transition to Linux.

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[–] Gnugit@aussie.zone 33 points 2 years ago

All those computers would run amazing with Linux.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

You know who throws away computers? WASTEFUL people. There's always a use for older, "obsolete" technology. Today's tablet could become tomorrow's clock or picture frame. Today's computer could become tomorrow's server or game system or video player. You just have to have a little creativity and some knowledge of tech.

[–] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 2 years ago

I used to think the same way as you before realize someone garbage it's someone else treasure, so now I sell anything too old for my uses to add some extra money and get new stuff, usually don't throw away anything, for example I like to disguise old laptops and CPUs to sell the working old parts to people who repair industrial old equipment, plenty of people willing to pay good money for some pieces of old shitty hardware.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately it isn't always as easy as that. Depending on what broke on the old computer, finding the right replacement part may be a nightmare. You can often find old CPUs on eBay for dirt cheap, but the catch is that there are close to no motherboards available, and the ones that are are way too expensive to be interesting. Moreover, it isn't always interesting to run old hardware for something that is on 24/7. My R5900X NAS sips 75W... At idle. 130W at full power. Depending on your electricity price, it could be more interesting to buy newer, more efficient hardware, than using older ones.

[–] DessertStorms@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

To add to the valid points others already made - some people simply don't have the inclination or know how, or even just the physical space to store all these old machines. Yet those machines going to landfill are still almost certainly the responsibility of those who not only made them barely last a couple of years, but who invest billions if not trillions on developing a newer version no one wants, and selling it (or forcing it) on people despite no one really needing it..

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

TLDR;

Microsoft has already announced it will offer extended security updates for Windows 10 to 2028.

[–] Vqhm@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

ESU is a paid service for enterprise. They didn't even offer ESU for windows 7 home.

Windows 7 pro ESU per device cost $50 for 1 year, $100 for the next year, $200 for the final year.

Windows 7 enterprise was per device 1 year $25, second year $50, and 3rd year $100.

Micro$oft is not going to give win10 ESU away for free and they probably won't supported home edition.

You can however bypass the win11 hardware checks to upgrade unsupported devices.

[–] samokosik@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 years ago

LTSC IoT Enterprise 2021 will last till 2031

[–] MrSilkworm@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

Researchers warn that Windows 11 restrictions could send 240 million computers to landfills

Researchers warn Microsoft that Windows 11 restrictions could send 240 million computers to run Linux. FTFY

[–] super_user_do@feddit.it 9 points 2 years ago

Finally cheaper hardware in the used market

[–] MaximilianKohler@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It was said in the previous thread that the TPM and Microsoft account requirements can be overridden with Rufus, so anyone can update to Win 11.

[–] flumph@programming.dev 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sure, but Windows 11 is a pain in the ass. My Internet was lagging the other day so my start menu wouldn't find a locally installed program because it couldn't search the Internet too.

[–] Fredy1422@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

But will microsoft attempt to block bypassing those horrible requirements or they cannot do so as its a registry hack.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Windows 11, finally bringing the year of Linux on the desktop.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

I think most people would rather throw away their computer than learn to click a different icon.

[–] BoastfulDaedra@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 2 years ago

Know what? Just send them to me.

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Microsoft: Okay (Forces everyone on W11 anyway)

[–] Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Ultragramps@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

I am prepared to pick them up and show some leg, as a bonus.

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