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[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 93 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not just any swimming, but some amateur or extracurricular school event!

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 75 points 2 years ago (2 children)

TERFs when I win a game of Battleship:

[–] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

😂🤣😂

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago

Everyone knows transitioning makes you clairvoyant, you damn cheat!

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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago (25 children)

This is the weakest of the arguments for trans rights. There's a reason they want everyone to focus on it.

We shouldn't be allowing them to frame the conversation around the one area where identifying as whatever you want actually affects other people.

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[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 36 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Onion has been on a hot streak lately.

Edit: from May but still true lol

[–] TerryMathews@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (2 children)

These people also never consider that they're measuring the wrong thing. If they're taking the position that the effects of testosterone from birth in trans M-to-F kids gives them an unfair advantage due to bone density and muscle mass, then they're failing to take into account that there are a number of natural health conditions that produce elevated testosterone levels in women as well.

I'm not saying this to be funny, but women with stubble especially around the chin often have elevated T levels, often due to PCOS. There truly are some women who are "built like a man" and they're not trans - at least certainly not in the way we use the term today. They're natural, their bodies just work differently.

Banning trans kids isn't going to level the playing field in the way they say they want to. Measuring things that testosterone affects like bone density would.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yep. T level testing was a popular trans exclusionary test until the transphobes learned that there's significant overlap in t levels between trans women and cis women.

Edit: lol looks like we upset the transphobes

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Most sports are dominated by people with genetic gifts. But having a little extra testosterone from a genetic quirk is a completely different thing than having extra testosterone because you were born with testes.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yet the end result is the same, an advantage over those that don't have it. Why is one fair and one unfair?

Sport is arbitrary rules we decide. Some trans athletes are going to be better at some sports, not because of their trans status but because they work hard and train lots. It is just as unfair to exclude them in case another trans athlete has a genetic advantage, that most research says they don't have.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Not to mention the bigotry, the prejudice, the psychological trauma of existing in a world where people call you evil and an abomination and a cheat for merely wanting to play sports.

[–] ThatFembyWho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 2 years ago

Aha, wait until she takes up chess, darts, and competitive crocheting... RIP cis women :'(

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (19 children)

Pick your battles, people. Insisting that trans women be allowed to compete in women’s sports is just not a winning argument, even among people that might be willing to otherwise oppose other trans restrictions. All it does in reinforce anti-trans attitudes.

This isn’t some invented fiction. Here is a trans powerlifter that just came in and started shattering records.

[–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Odd, here's women's records and the weightlifter in question isn't on this list: https://www.openpowerlifting.org/records/women So what are you really trying to say?

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[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Haven't some particularly haenous talking heads on TV literally already said this? Perhaps not in directly declaratory language at someone, because that's begging for a defamation suit, though I have absolutely heard Republican scum make this exact accusation in the general case several times against trans people.

[–] violetraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wow, the ~~phrenologists~~ ~~race realists~~ transphobes fell for this hard.

[–] emptybamboo@midwest.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This was one of the Onion's more brilliant articles. Absolutely loved it. I showed it to someone who rants about trans girls in sports and they got quiet. The truly good Onion articles make the object of their satire instantly recognize the logical fallacies in their own argument and get uncomfortable.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

The author of this article was laying in bed and thought, “AHA! I can set the internet on fire!”

I love it.

[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Unpopular opinion (on Lemmy and coming from a guy who doesn’t have an issue with trans people): Transpeople are people too and aren't going to just go die in a ditch because the thought of losing to one makes you upset.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Who is suggesting they should die in a ditch?

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