this post was submitted on 23 Dec 2023
113 points (77.3% liked)

Games

39848 readers
792 users here now

Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.

Rules

1. Submissions have to be related to games

Video games, tabletop, or otherwise. Posts not related to games will be deleted.

This community is focused on games, of all kinds. Any news item or discussion should be related to gaming in some way.

2. No bigotry or harassment, be civil

No bigotry, hardline stance. Try not to get too heated when entering into a discussion or debate.

We are here to talk and discuss about one of our passions, not fight or be exposed to hate. Posts or responses that are hateful will be deleted to keep the atmosphere good. If repeatedly violated, not only will the comment be deleted but a ban will be handed out as well. We judge each case individually.

3. No excessive self-promotion

Try to keep it to 10% self-promotion / 90% other stuff in your post history.

This is to prevent people from posting for the sole purpose of promoting their own website or social media account.

4. Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts

This community is mostly for discussion and news. Remember to search for the thing you're submitting before posting to see if it's already been posted.

We want to keep the quality of posts high. Therefore, memes, funny videos, low-effort posts and reposts are not allowed. We prohibit giveaways because we cannot be sure that the person holding the giveaway will actually do what they promise.

5. Mark Spoilers and NSFW

Make sure to mark your stuff or it may be removed.

No one wants to be spoiled. Therefore, always mark spoilers. Similarly mark NSFW, in case anyone is browsing in a public space or at work.

6. No linking to piracy

Don't share it here, there are other places to find it. Discussion of piracy is fine.

We don't want us moderators or the admins of lemmy.world to get in trouble for linking to piracy. Therefore, any link to piracy will be removed. Discussion of it is of course allowed.

Authorized Regular Threads

Related communities

PM a mod to add your own

Video games

Generic

Help and suggestions

By platform

By type

By games

Language specific

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
all 43 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Free to keep 😁 on the Epic Games Store 😔

[–] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Good luck getting it to run no matter where you buy it! You'll need patches and a prayer circle to play it.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For anyone wondering if it's that bad, I played it when I got it on Steam and it ran just fine. Then patched it no problem through the either the Workshop or the Nexus Mods manager like three months later

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

And if you're really worried, you can look up a steam guide on how to get it running as smooth as possible on whatever OS you're running.

IIRC Bethesda modernized their classic games to run well on modern Windows when they got bought by Microsoft?

[–] corbin 9 points 2 years ago

The latest versions through GOG and (I think) Steam run pretty well, there’s no more GFWL or other stuff that broke a long time ago.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Or you can get it for less than $7 dollars from a reputable game service, unlike the fucking joke that is Epic Games Store.

I mean, it's not like you're actually going to play it, either way.

[–] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"For the next 24 hours, pay for Fallout with your dignity!"

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"The last laugh is mine, I don't have any dignity!"

[–] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

You can use legendary worth heroic as a user interface (both open source projects) to download and play games you own on epic, no need to install their software.

[–] simple@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or you can take it for free and just not spend money on EGS? It's not like taking it would be supporting them.

[–] bridge_too_close@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

But it does. You're still giving them your data, which they can use for all manner of things. If that's something you don't care about, then more power to you - enjoy your free game.

[–] simple@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Literally the only data they can get is basic hardware info and your e-mail address which is easy to fake. You can even use an alternate launcher like Heroic and give them basically nothing. The point isn't to "take people's data", they give away games to try to generate interest in EGS and get people to download it and spend money on the store. You lose nothing by redeeming the game.

[–] bridge_too_close@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They collect and use quite a bit more than that, it's in their privacy policy:

https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/privacypolicy

Sure, their primary focus is most likely generating interest and usage of their platform, but they'll also use analytical and statistical information to influence their business decisions.

If that's something you don't care about, then more power to you - enjoy your free game.

On a personal note, I made the decision as a consumer to not interact with them as much as possible. Even when I did have an account to collect free games years ago, the only thing I actually played was a Satisfactory alpha/beta event. I have more than enough games to play, so I am not concerned with collecting their free games.

[–] simple@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

This is literally a bog standard privacy policy. Any closed source website or app you use will also track analytics and usage, and basic hardware info like I mentioned. You might as well go on a crusade against Steam for doing the same thing. You and people like you making these comments act like Epic, specifically, is bad for privacy as if nobody else has trackers. You're misleading people.

[–] bridge_too_close@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I am not against Epic because of their privacy policy. I don't like Epic because of their business practices and owners, and don't want to give them anything, even if it's just a bogus email address and a few clicks or whatnot. And no, I never tried to imply other companies don't do the same thing.

Here's the bottom line, as far as I'm concerned:
I don't like Epic, and want nothing to do with them. If others want to interact with them, even if it's just for the free games, that's their decision to make.

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oh no, now they know the one-off email address I used for my Epic account!

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you really think you're less clever than an entire industry that has been built up around tracking people and keeping ghost profiles on them, go ahead and keep patting yourself on the back, bud.

They know who you are, that's not anywhere near as clever as you think.

You realize IP addresses exist, right?

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

IP address? Oh, you mean the thing that rotates every 24 hours?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I guess things like Speech Pattern Analysis don't exist then, nor has Big Data ever been known to sift through data to connect data points.

Like unless your job is director of IT Security for Microsoft, I doubt you have the credentials to be as anonymous as you think you are.

On top of the fact that most people know that the more you try to anonymize yourself, the more you actually make yourself unique in terms of data because very few people use obfuscation techniques, and those techniques are well known. Thus, if they think you're obfuscating your identity, you're now just thrown in the "people who like anonymity" bag of data, which when connected with previously collected data on "people who like anonymity" can be used to create a profile on you, specifically.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If I believed Epic was really that good at making money by secretly collecting data, I don't know why I'd believe they need me to download their launcher to do it. They're either cartoon supervillains or they're not.

[–] Rose@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They own Easy Anti-Cheat, which has kernel level access and collects data as part of its user agreement but these people keep regurgitating the debunked claim of the launcher being spyware. Occam's razor, anyone?

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

To me, Occam's razor also says they're not recording that data anywhere because it exposes them to liability and because it's useless.

[–] ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Epic games store is honestly quite decent m8 I've been using it since 2020. Some of the good things I've noticed on epic games is

  • free games

  • alot of the sales for games can be cheaper than steam sales

It's hardly no different to steam gog or any other game launched out there although it lacks official linux support which is a negative in my books when it comes to privacy I'll argue they're both as bad as each other if you think your being smart by avoiding epic games because it's owned by tencent and your concerned for your privacy then you should stop using steam ubisoft ea gog and the many other launchers as well they're both as invasive when it comes to your privacy as the other plus hear me out.. YOUR NOT THAT IMPORTANT I'm not sure the feds are coming after a 32 year old IT tech support worker because he said wrongthink on a tiny social media network

If your still super paranoid first uninstall all your game launchers then maybe pirate and look into foss alternatives or try GOG out you can install games on the Web without a launcher and the games don't have invasive drm

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago
[–] kattenluik@feddit.nl -1 points 2 years ago

You're calling out the wrong people, completely missing the point of everything privacy or why the epic store is a bad thing and being an idiot and asshole.

[–] sparr@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Sadly the checkout dialog has CORS violations that they probably don't care to fix.

Cross-Origin Request Blocked: The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at ‘https://payment-website-pci.ol.epicgames.com/purchase/xsrf?purchaseToken=XXX&flow=PURCHASE’. (Reason: Credential is not supported if the CORS header ‘Access-Control-Allow-Origin’ is ‘*’).

Cross-Origin Request Blocked: The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at ‘https://talon-service-prod.ecosec.on.epicgames.com/v1/init’. (Reason: Credential is not supported if the CORS header ‘Access-Control-Allow-Origin’ is ‘*’).

Cross-Origin Request Blocked: The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at ‘https://bam.nr-data.net/1/93a8bd5691?a=27815142&v=1.249.0&to=MlxXbUBZWkJUAkVQCgsWcktTUVhCdg5asdfKVVlcQBdEUEwMVFcRSklUQF9dWkU%3D&rst=1610&ck=0&s=67133c36f4b2d060&ref=https://store.epicgames.com/purchase&ap=271&be=712&fe=717&dc=347&fsh=0&perf=%7B%22timing%22:%7B%22of%22:1703387184928,%22n%22:0,%22f%22:712,%22dn%22:712,%22dne%22:712,%22c%22:712,%22s%22:712,%22ce%22:712,%22rq%22:712,%22rp%22:712,%22rpe%22:712,%22xx%22:1056,%22ds%22:1057,%22de%22:1059,%22dc%22:1428,%22l%22:1428,%22le%22:1429%7D,%22navigation%22:%7B%7D%7D&fcp=963’. (Reason: Credential is not supported if the CORS header ‘Access-Control-Allow-Origin’ is ‘*’).

[–] Cybersteel@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago
[–] Fades@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I don’t give a shit what game is free on epic lol. Even if I wanted this game and didn’t already own it no shot am I going to fuckin epic

[–] Squid@leminal.space 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Only get to keep for 24 hours?

[–] ElPussyKangaroo@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No. You can claim it for free for the next 24hrs

[–] vox@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 years ago

already have it fro previous giveaway