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[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 136 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Again for anybody working on their own games or who does software. Avoid this like the plague.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Again for anybody working on their own games or who does software. Avoid this like the plague.

Learning from the code and reusing the same code are two different things. It's not every day you get to see how the pros do it.

~~On a completely different subject, I'm curious about your username, could you elaborate on it?~~

Edit: I scrolled down. What is Stormlight?

Edit2: I scrolled down even more. [This says it the best].(https://lemmy.world/comment/6232601)

[–] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Cease and desists go brrrrrr

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[–] thrawn@lemmy.world 107 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Maybe we can finally end all the hopes for that UFO thing. The people who spent years on it deserve closure, even if it was just hints towards a cancelled DLC

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] Kiwi_Girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lots of easter eggs involving aliens + UFOs over the decade.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's all part of a probe to gauge sympathy for an Alien race orbiting an unstable star system, hoping to relocate to Earth and build an army of sympathisers.

[–] Kiwi_Girl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well let them know they have my vote.

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[–] Gimpydude@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 2 years ago

GTA:Alpha Centari!

[–] thrawn@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry for late response, one of the other commenters got it but if you didn’t look it up after you probably don’t know the scale of the search. There are a ton of Easter eggs and a few UFOs hanging around in the game, leading many to think there is a large scale mystery that can be solved. Also hard to describe the Easter eggs— there was a mural on a mountain, an ingame serial killer, a ghost and her daughter, a cult, ingame rumors of UFOs, an alien frozen in ice, three UFOs hovering and one crashed, and a lot more that I probably can’t remember.

So for years people scoured through the game and decompiled code hoping to find it. The search is actually vaguely still ongoing apparently, even after the leak since it takes time to parse through.

While there is still stuff undiscovered, it’s most likely that this was part of the cancelled single player DLCs. Which does suck because it was a genuinely interesting idea and it would’ve been cool if R* had managed to hide a real massive subplot in the game.

Not the best summary cause it’s been a while and I was never that invested, but it was pretty interesting in the first few years.

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[–] TheBig2023Meltdown@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuck that I want to see where the jetpack has been all this time

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You could buy it in GTA Online.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 62 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Now that the source code is "out there" it may be possible in the future for better mod support, fingers crossed.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 86 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"You have been banned from Rockstar Social Club."

But seriously, fuck their jank-ass forced integration.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Could be modded to work around their shit app

[–] Legendsofanus@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Wait, all mods have to go through that app? That's total shite. Is there any way to launch it completely offline or would someone just have to pirate it?

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I imagine with this leak that's going to get cracked wide open soon

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[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Banned from their social club and all local saves wiped for good measure.

[–] 000@fuck.markets 49 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Are there any links floating around to download said code? The various tweets/articles seem to suggest it leaked in one Discord server, and nobody's providing a link to that Discord nor a mirror of the code.

[–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Trying to compile well-documented github projects is a crap shoot half the time. iirc no one figured out how to compile even the Windows XP source code when it got leaked and it's long gone/no longer obtainable so no one can try. The chances of anything coming out of this that the average person will see are almost complete zero.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My experience with large projects is that the bigger they get, the more their build systems turn into large projects in their own right. Maintaining the build for something like Windows is probably many people's full-time job, so it's no surprise a bunch of amateurs with no docs couldn't do it.

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[–] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Does this mean we're not going to see community enhanced version of GTAV? I thought the game was disappointing when compared to GTA:SA. The world feels empty and the campaign is too short.

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[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] lambda@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

It says in the Twitter thread that the source code was shared on a discord server for Xbox modding.

[–] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] rustyriffs@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Haven't seen a rick roll in a while. Someone else click on it first. Lol

[–] lambda@programming.dev 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lmao, it's a Rick roll on archive.org!

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lmao, it’s a Rick roll

TY for taking the bullet.

[–] rustyriffs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Called it. 🤣

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

OpenGTA5 would be so cool. To bad Rockstar is Rockstar.

[–] ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago

And FiveM is already property of Rockstar.

[–] PeachMan@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Does this mean the hackers and cheaters will only get worse from here?

[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Unlikely, unless the source code for the anti-cheat system and the server have been leaked as well.

The source code for just the game isn't really going to help cheaters. Cheat makers typically don't care about the code, they'd look at either altering the game files, and/or the memory space where the game variables are stored. Having access to the source doesn't really help with that (well it may help them understand the compiled binaries a bit better, assuming they don't know them inside-out already - we're talking about a 10 year old game here).

But it may help modders for making mods and stuff. These mods may or may not be detected by the anti-cheat system though.

If Rockstar coded the game properly, the server won't allow the client to connect if any of the files have been modified, or if the anti-cheat system is spooked/borked. So assuming that's the case, any mods that may come out of this would be for offline gaming.

TL;DR: There's nothing the worry about, online gaming (against randoms) will continue to suck as usual, best to stick to offline play or playing with/against a trusted friend circle.

[–] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Wow. I used to use a sector editor on floppy disks to cheat on games way back in the eighties by looking for player stats and abilities and whatnot. I had no idea that modern day cheating would be so similar to the rudimentary stuff I was doing nearly forty years ago.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Well, software is software after all :P

It all becomes 1s and 0s at the end of the day lol

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah, computers have a lot more bells and whistles now, but the basics of how the system and the OS work haven't really changed that much, until you get out of native apps and into Electron and stuff. It's honestly remarkable how similar they are. Microsoft has a bunch of documentation about weird and quirky behavior they keep available for backwards compatibility, and most modern software developers take them up on that offer.

[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 5 points 2 years ago

The core ideas remained the same, only difference is that they've got more roadblocks now which makes it considerably tricker (security measures in the OS + anti-cheat + encryption/DRM + server-side checks etc).

But modern day cheating goes beyond memory editing, for instance there are things like aimbots which can work at the GPU/driver level, or input automation/macros which work completely ouside of the game so normal anticheat measures may not prevent it.

[–] lapommedeterre@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I agree. Most points of entry are usually via injection, and you need to maneuver around the anti-cheat defense. Once the game code isn't in parity with the server, it's also likely to be rejected; this leak is likely older anyway, so probably a non-issue since it's not feature complete at this point.

It may help identify new points of entry for injection, but that'll likely get patched once exploited.

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[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If support has been discontinued for GTA 5 and it no longer receives any updates then yes that's likely.

edit: depending on what is actually included in the "full source code", of course.

[–] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

But does it compile?

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Grand Theft Video (Game)

[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Here come the unbreakable cheats I guess.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago

This is (one reason) why anti-cheat should be server-side.

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[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do Red Alert 2 next, please

[–] flauschke@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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