As the message says, the PS5 doesn't support any Bluetooth audio. It doesn't matter if it's made by Sony, you cannot connect audio devices to a PS5 via Bluetooth.
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Ps4 does, what pepega shit is this
(It is a meme I stole I am not currently attempting to connect a headset, but I am nonetheless bothered by ps5s lack of bluetooth)
Most likely they'd have to pay royalties to use Bluetooth software on their device, and they deemed the cost too high. The same thing is true for HDMI and other things. They're proprietary, so sometimes devices won't support it so they don't have to pay royalties. (Unrelated, but I honestly don't understand how HDMI still exists though with DisplayPort being available without the licensing costs. It just controls so much of the market that it can't die.)
I can see that being an issue but there’s also the issue with lag/latency. Although, if somebody wants to deal with a slight audio delay I say more power to them.
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That's fuckin insane. I had no idea it couldn't even do that. The crazier thing is looking it up and seeing all the fanboys defending this as actually a good thing
Crazy I didn't know. The defender fanboys are even in this thread. Wow
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After Apple , Sony is the hardware tech company that I hate the most. They have always had retrograde and protectionist thinking with their products like Nintendo.Betamax x VHS war was a great example
Happy to see Sony hate. Sony was Apple before Apple.
The vita was amazing, but destroyed by the stupid proprietary memory cards that were obscenely expensive
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Then again, the Xperias are pretty damn good and use stock Android without all the bloat that other manufacturers add.
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If anyone reading this is considering cheaper Sony bluetooth headphones versus the comparable Anker product, go with Anker! The speaker and a few models of headphones I've used were much better and cheaper than the comparable Sony product.
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Their professional CD audio recorders only take CDRs with special "generation bits" in some desperate stupid attempt to reduce copying even though everybody else's CD recorders don't care about the bit.
They invented their stupid proprietary memory sticks even though SD cards were cheaper and more readily available.
The power plugs for their devices of course are not barrel plugs so you can't replace them with a cheap and easily available replacement.
They're complete assholes to their customers.
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I got legit angry at it, but it makes sense, there is a very slight but noticeable delay in almost all bluetooth audio. Sony certainly wouldn't want to taint their brand by something that small
Boost this one to the top, it's the official reason given by sony. You can disparage it if you want, but it has technical merit. The audio codecs supported by mainstream bluetooth devices are meant for music, where you want the highest possible quality and can tolerate a slight delay between when you press play and when the music actually starts.
In video games this means you get a noticable delay on the audio. With classic video file playback like a movie, this can be compensated for by delaying the visuals so thay match up with the audio, but delaying the visuals in a video game is an even worse experience for the player.
Sony's use of a proprietary audio codec via their wireless controllers is pretty justified. They're able to optimize for latency and it shows (or rather, it doesn't, since you probably would never notice it).
It has hypercapitalistic anti consumer merit
It's not okay to make excuses for it
It is purely to make profit of a customer seen as incompetent
Just because it's a valid business case for making money
Even if to prevent bad experiences on their premium product
Nothing other than a failure of the capitalist system
No need to excuse it
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they want you to buy their specific ps5 earbuds. It is absolutely inane, the tech is all there but not available. Personally my smart tv can connect to my bluetooth earbuds so I just do that
Likely this. I have to use my bose headphones wired into the controller, meanwhile, I can just pair the same headphones with my Nintendo switch without issue.
Don't give Nintendo a free pass on that, it was years before they added support for Bluetooth audio
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It's because Sony likes making proprietary products and sucks at it.
WULFF DEN did a review on the portal and mentioned some of the other proprietary stuff that also sucked. I still have some of their garbage mem sticks and Vita charger.
It's weird because there's a 3.5mm port on the controller you can use. Which I usually end up using, or Bluetooth through my TV. But it's really silly that they don't just say "Bluetooth audio sucks, use at your own risk" and let you have it.
Bluetooth does, legitimately, suck, for gaming though.
The only official two-way audio profile (that is, mic and speaker working simultaneously) mandates a low bitrate mono audio.
Stereo audio itself has a slight latency which may be fine for music or even movies (especially with lip sync adjustments), but for gaming it can be a problem when your audio is a big part of your situational awareness.
I don’t mind not supporting Bluetooth for games, at least for multiplayer. 3.5mm to controller and a proprietary protocol for the audio is the perfect compromise. For single player or media, though, I’d agree it’s dumb.
IMO even if it does suck for latency, not everyone is playing competitively and needs perfect latency and bluetooth should be supported for everything. Rhythm games on pc and mobile even have adjustment settings for terrible latency.
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I'm more of the camp it should warned that it is worse for gaming with an explanation of why, then just out right disallowing it. As was said, not all people are playing competitive nor does it present a problem for all games.
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I mean honestly:
A) Bluetooth spec is insane
B) Audio requires a driver write
All I'm saying is it's not exactly "easy", like I don't think they're intentionally blocking this for anti competitive reasons, I bet it's more so cost of development, with an added benefit of driving purchases of proprietary accessories. Bluetooth is a terrible stack that's super difficult to implement
When I first got a PS4 and tried to connect my headset to it I was told of was unsupported. After doing some digging I found that the only supported bluetooth headsets were specifically the ones that were branded as PlayStation. This wasn't the case with the PS3, it was just a decision Sony made in order to sell their overpriced headsets.
I have a headset on my PS5 that isn't from Sony. Just get a Bluetooth dongle. Damn, people in this thread are drowning in a glass of water.
Bluetooth has an audio delay that is detrimental to games. You can buy a dongle and use other headsets as well. There’s nothing nefarious here:
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The bluetooth stack for a company of this size is a solved problem.
If the nintendo switch can do it, so should a PS5.
Pretty sure the controllers connect over bluetooth already
They already implement a Bluetooth microphone via their controller
I thought the same thing when I tried to use my Sony headphones of a model that were made after the PS5 launched. They must be plugged into the controller to work, and when done that way the microphone doesn't work making it worthless as a headset.
Literally unplayable
Sony has totally bad vertical integration. It would be so powerful for them because they produce so much stuff.
First ps5 has no games than this
Wait, really?
If it's in a meme it must be true!
To overcome this, I got a cheap low latency USB Bluetooth adapter. BT latency is still too much.
Should've gotten an Xbox
Except they don’t support USB OR Bluetooth audio.
No way, not even usb!?
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