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Pika Labs new generative AI video tool unveiled — and it looks like a big deal::The new Pika 1.0 tool comes after a $55 million funding round for the generative AI company and is a big step up in AI video production.

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[–] archomrade@midwest.social 79 points 2 years ago (7 children)

There's a lot of "AI is theft" comments in this thread, and I'd just like to take a moment to bring up the Luddite movement at the beginning of the Industrial Revolution: the point isn't that 'machines are theft', or 'machines are just a fad', or even 'machines are bad' - the point was that machines were the new and highly efficient way capital owners were undermining the security and material conditions of the working class.

Let's not confuse problems that are created by capitalistic systems for problems created by new technologies - and maybe we can learn something about radical political action from the Luddites.

[–] Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 years ago

I recommend reading this article by Kit Walsh, a senior staff attorney at the EFF if you haven't already. The EFF is a digital rights group who most recently won a historic case: border guards now need a warrant to search your phone.

AI training isn’t only for mega-corporations. We can already train open source models, and Mozilla and LAION have already commited to training AI anyone can use. We shouldn't put up barriers that only benefit the ultra-wealthy and hand corporations a monopoly of a public technology by making it prohibitively expensive to for regular people to keep up. Mega corporations already own datasets, and have the money to buy more. And that's before they make users sign predatory ToS allowing them exclusive access to user data, effectively selling our own data back to us. Regular people, who could have had access to a competitive, corporate-independent tool for creativity, education, entertainment, and social mobility, would instead be left worse off and with less than where they started.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (20 children)
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[–] Subverb@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

I've been saying for a year now, generative AI is going to foster a resurgence in stage theater. When movies are all 100% AI with no humans in them, we'll want to see humans act. That and "organic" movie labels.

[–] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (34 children)

Cool, another step in the ruining art with AI saga

These are all short clips because they look like ass if you get enough time to actually look at them. But even still, can people just stop with this shit?

Let people do the one truely human thing ffs.

Edit: Let me be clear, AI has good uses. My only argument here is that generating art is not one, especially when the training data is stolen and used for profit.

[–] burliman@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is not the way to look at this. Stop thinking this stuff will replace human art. Until we can simulate a human in the machine (not there yet), art will always be by humans because it is a human endeavor recognized and appreciated only by humans.

These things are tools for a human to use. And like any tool that is used in the hands of the casual or the lazy, it will become very banal indeed once the shininess wears off. With your same outlook you could tell Adobe to stop improving the digital brushes in Photoshop, because art is only for humans.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

I think a good analogy is clipart, or those horrible corporate memphis/algeria graphics. They look awful, but they are just good enough at illustrating an idea that many companies will use them rather than hiring an artist. The thing is, corporations almost never want art. They want illustrations.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

AI doesn't generate art. Art is about using media in order to convey a perspective on the world and to illicit emotions from the audience. What AI generates is simply the media itself. It isn't capable of having the point of view or life experiences needed to create actual art.

[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

People forget art isn't just a product it's an activity people do.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] glowie@h4x0r.host 10 points 2 years ago

We were only meant to be wage slaves /s

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[–] realharo@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

This is from over a month ago.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Seeing people go gaga over all this AI trash kind of makes me convinced that most people just… do not see? Not that something is physically wrong with their vision but it’s like most of it doesn’t even register, even more so than what I thought was the normal baseline of inattention to details.

Are people just constantly distracted and not really engaging with media? Only watching or looking at things on small screens? The result of decades of cuts and devaluation of art education? Literally just being happy with whatever garbage is in front of them? It’s a mystery to me.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 24 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The ooohs is mostly about how fucking far it has come so quickly. You must see how this technology is a pretty fucking big deal

[–] burliman@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

They don’t see and don’t really want to see. Typical technophobe responses rooted in fear and insecurities.

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[–] BURN@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I see how far it’s come and I fucking hate it. It creates nothing, it wholly brings down the quality of art in the world and destroys countless people’s lives. There are no benefits

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[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

What a condescending view point while bringing nothing to the table but insults.

I see a technology that will break the barriers necessary to get into animation and movie production, finally paving way for indie companies in the domain. It will elevate art in all domains, bringing us more interesting products and features.

[–] Peanutbjelly@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

God I want some large projects by independent teams. It's impossible to do anything without a sponsor, but this might be what we need for smaller groups to create wonderful complex works of art, instead of cookiecutter boardroom content machines that currently flood almost all available commercial artistic spaces.

Can't wait to see how the tech develops. It's be curious to do VR experience recreations of my dreams through AI dictation.

Modelling, rigging, animation and the like are all coming. Imagine walking around a world being crafted and changed as you describe each element to be exactly what you are looking for.

I think it would capture more artist intent than the unnecessary interface of archaic tools that create an artificial interface and challenge between you and your vision.

Especially if you've damaged your digits, or otherwise lack digital dexterity.

But change scares people. Especially ones who have put in effort to conform to the current economic system corporate art creators.

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