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[–] ChemicalPilgrim@lemmy.world 135 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Maybe they should have left us a better world if they wanted their genetic line to continue lol

[–] Machiia@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] late_night@sopuli.xyz 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)
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[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I blame the agricultural revolution.

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[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's a good idea to not have kids with your siblings.

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[–] TalesFromTheKitchen@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I asked my wife if she wanted kids and she just waved around and said "look at this shit, do you really want to put a someone through this?" Yep, the world is screwed. But I believe people have to make their own, conscious choice. No sense in forcing them to either have kids or not.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

My wife and I were planning to have kids in 2020. We had already started the process in 2019. Then covid happened. Then people hoarded toilet paper during a respiratory pandemic that doesn't even affect your bowels. Then supply lines shut down. Then forest fires raged out of control across the country, turning the skies into red ash. Then protests and riots broke out across the country. All the while trump was happening about eleventy billion times. Ultimately we got a master class on how fucking ridiculous this world has become. We decided never to have kids. We're already middle aged, so that's it for us. It's too late now. We occasionally consider adopting, but that's a whole other bag of cats.

Saaame. We decided to adopt the cats instead 🤣

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

If you ever decide you do want kids, I'd endorse adopting. That way you're not bringing a new life into this shitty world, you're hopefully improving one that's already gotten dealt a bad hand in life.

[–] TalesFromTheKitchen@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Same, same. Well just in Germany. We haven't been hit as bad as the U.S. but your country stretches over three climate zones. However, we live in a small town on the Baltic coast and last year was nuts with the weather. And yes, some people are unfortunately very egoistical and make it even harder for the rest who just want to have a halfway decent life.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People weren't hoarding toilet paper because they thought it affected their bowels -- they were hoarding it because who knew what might happen where we'd have to stay at home or be isolated for a long time.

What's strange is, why toilet paper and not much else lol. At least where I lived. I wasn't hoarding, I was just trying to get some at the store because we were running out completely, and the shelves were empty. 💀 Had to buy some non-bulk expensive and fragile af paper.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 years ago

The why TP is because it was big and noticeable in store. There was a chunk missing and then word got that "you need to get some before they run out" and that causes a run and the stores run out.

If you remember during the gas pipeline cyber attack. It only effected a specific area of the country SE area, but areas outside of the actual problem ran out of fuel because people heard about other stations running out and having problems. We are not good at handling stressful situations together. We turn into a "fuck you, I got mine and I might need to stockpile more for later" type of people.

[–] kamenlady@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] TalesFromTheKitchen@lemmy.ml 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

We had a long talk about it and the above statement is just the gist of it. If we lived in better times, sure. But not in this timeline. We both came to that conclusion and it is perfectly fine.

[–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Not to butt in your business, but if that's your only reason to not have children, and you're otherwise financially capable and willing to raise kids, have you two considered adoption? Instead of bringing someone extra into this shit as you put it, you'd just be helping one of the people who're unfortunately already in it.

[–] TalesFromTheKitchen@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sorry for the late reply, was night here. Yes, we actually thought about that. But while it is easy to just have a kid, adoption (at least here in Germany where you only have around 4000 adoptions per year) comes with quite the list of requirements. We are both working full time and just recently found a very nice apartment, but without a seperate room for a kid. Then again my wife is a kindergarten teacher, so she already has like 20 kids ;)

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[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fuck yes. Thank you for doing your part to not make this place worse for your woulda-been kids and for me.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

The sad part of this is the people here with the critial thinking and reasoning skills to make that descision are the ones not passing on those attributes, but its the low income & education people are the ones who cant even think far enough ahead to wear a fucking condom.

you wont catch me raising children both because im a mess, and i refuse to raise children in a dysfunctional society that hasn't got its shit together.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Not sorry at all. These genetics are just a dead end. I’m making the human race better. Addition by subtraction.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 2 years ago

I know!

Considering my ridiculously high-magnification contact lenses, my ancestors have no idea what I’m up to. They couldn’t even see across the room.

[–] GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Yep, my partner and I have way too many medical issues so we don't feel bad at all for not bringing kids into this already fucked up world.

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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Not one of them cares tbh. Besides, not having kids, is the best environmental friendly option of them all.

I'd guess that having children, in the long run is more environmentally harmful than you eating meat the rest of your life.

[–] ransomwarelettuce@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Pretty much.

"Oh ... But I want kids", adopt why bringing another being to this fuckshow when u could improve the life of one currently in the bottom of the barrel.

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

“You never know. I mean, what if my baby cures cancer?” —Someone I’m paraphrasing but not by much ffs

[–] HootinNHollerin@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Most do care imo. This Christmas with relatives it was asked many times like no one cares about any other part of my life

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Most of your ancestors are dead. And even among the living ones I'd argue that the majority don't really care. Never the less, who cares if they do.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Also, I said this before as a parent and I will say it again- please do not have children unless you really want children. No child deserves to go through their childhood neglected and unloved. Which is going to be a major result of the end of Roe v. Wade in the U.S. and why abortion rights are vital.

No one should have to be a parent unless they absolutely want to be a parent.

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[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

Who can afford kids these days?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Adolf Hitler had a sister who emigrated to England before the war and had two kids. Both kids actually fought in the war against their uncle with no one aware of who they were. They both agreed to never have children.

And that's why there are no more Hitlers.

Unlike Mussolinis and Yamatos.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're not your ancestors' only descendant

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It is not uncommon for someone to be the last person in their lineage.

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[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

When I was a teenager I wanted kids. I fully bought into 'the American dream' being sold. I'd get me a wife, kids, house, and a career. Helped that I actually like kids. Made it my life's goal to try to be the best provider, best dad, best husband I could be.

Put myself through college, I have a good career, bought a house when I was 24, and still love kids. But I gave up on dating when I was like 28(?). It just became not worth it for so many reasons.

This last fall marked 20 years since I left my hometown to start my life... And I felt like a failure (still do). I exist to work and pay bills.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (5 children)

There are few things sweeter than sleeping in on a Saturday and waking up to a clean, quiet house.

You couldn't pay me to trade that for some whiny, entitled little brat.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (4 children)

There are few things sweeter than sleeping in on a Saturday and waking up to a clean, quiet house.

Waking up early, making pancakes for a couple of gleeful little munchkins, and then going out to the park to run around and have fun is one of those things you forget you used to love doing when you were younger.

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[–] Todgerdickinson@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can’t quantify the feeling of having kids until you have one, but it’s very easy to articulate the perceived drawbacks of said unknown. They bring a life buff like nothing else, speaking a someone who regularly chases altered states of consciousness.

They provide a large opportunity for some enormous maturation, removal of bitterness/edgelord-iness and to not be so self-centred.

Your description of kids sounds like me beforehand. Have 2 happy accidents now.

Lie-ins are still possible if you are actually in a decent relationship by the way. To anybody reading, don’t have kids if you are in a bad one. No kid deserves to grow up around that.

[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I grew up in a family with eighteen kids. If having such a huge family is good for anything, it's that I don't have the romantic veneer that most people do when it comes to childrearing.

I know exactly how expensive and hard it is, and just how much it sucks.

[–] Sarmyth@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Your life experience is actually so extreme that you don't know exactly how hard it is or how much it sucks. Your experience is not going to be representative of 99.9% of the populace.

You should basically never use your family life experiences growing as a reference point because of how extremely unusual it is. This is the equivalent of complaining about how hard it is to drive around town in the truckasaurus.

Unless you are intentionally misrepresenting a foster home, which is again different than having your own child or 2.

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[–] Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 years ago

Vasectomy is up there in the top 5 best things to happen in my life.

Highly recommend if you are sure you want to go child-free. There is nothing quite so worry free as shooting blanks instead of using condoms and birth control.

[–] the_q@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Mine are looking up and nodding in approval.

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Jazz is an anti-natalist confirmed

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