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[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 141 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Everyone is mad about this but I still don't understand how RDR2 was even nominated for Labor of Love, let alone won.

[–] TheWildTangler@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It's a popularity vote, players nominated and voted for the games. So they just trolled the votes for this and Starfield

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago

For the nominations users at least had the option to skip sections if they couldn't think of anything to nominate. For the voting, in order to get the participation reward players had to vote for something in each category.

This led to a lot of users who don't care about the actual voting and just wanting the participation to vote for the one game they recognized in the category.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago

Popularity based on trolling. Every year Labor of Love goes to Terraria or CSGO or something earnest like that.

[–] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Guessing short sighted algorithms. Because you can see on Valves side of things, packages have been updated/added/etc this year which probably allows it to be picked up.

https://steamdb.info/app/1174180/depots/

You can see here, the DLC was updated in 2023 https://steamdb.info/app/1190051/info/

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 65 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The awards don't mean shit, there was nothing even close to innovative about Starfield. They took No Man's Sky, made it worse, and shoved their 15 year old npc behavior in it.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Fan votes have been and will always be popularity contests.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (10 children)

I am in a mad bubble then because I have never heard anything good about Starfield, or even seen for that matter. Besides maybe Joel Haver's starfield videos on youtube and those are parodies.

[–] schmidtster@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It almost seems tongue in cheek, especially with rddr2 winning the labor of love.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That or these big companies have an army of steam accounts for this. Thats not completely out of the question.

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[–] smeg@feddit.uk 11 points 2 years ago

It's worse than that because Steam essentially pay you to vote (by giving you a card or something you can sell) so people are incentivised to just pick a random game or the only game they've heard of.

[–] bender223@lemmy.today 58 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait, do they know what the word innovative means?

Wait, do they know what the word gameplay means?

Wait, do they know what the word most means?

[–] Ilflish@lemm.ee 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It was community chosen. So a lot of people trolled. There's a random dating sim in the"Outstanding story" finalists

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2322560/Love_Is_All_Around

[–] bender223@lemmy.today 11 points 2 years ago

Ah, thanks for clarifying, or explaining how it actually happened. 👍

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[–] SpookyCoffee@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

2006: Make oblivion

2007-2022: Recycle gameplay for other IPs

2023: Make oblivion in space

Truly innovative

[–] Montagge@kbin.social 31 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I'd play the hell out of it if it's Oblivion in space

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

That would be good.

This is TES online in Space, with half of the features replaced by loading screens.

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[–] amio@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

2023: Make oblivion in space

I fucking wish. I'm a huge, bitter whiner about Starfield and I would've loved it if it'd kept quality as high as Oblivion was (for its time, don't laugh)

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[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I have no side to take, but it's sorta hilarious seeing people saying the award mean nothing when it's starfield that win it, and on the other hand congratulate Baldur's Gate for winning another GOTY. Truly the Schrodinger Award.

[–] Goronmon@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Games you liked winning awards is something to celebrate. Games you don't like winning awards is proof that awards are a joke and should be ignored. Just how things work.

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[–] MrKurteous@feddit.nu 18 points 2 years ago (5 children)

To be fair, "game of the year" feels like it's meant to measure popularity, while "most innovative" sounds like it shouls measure how innovative a game is, which is perhaps why the two awards get such different reactions.

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[–] zxk@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's like the points are made up and don't mean anything

"Everything is made up and the points don't matter."

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

seeing as we are the ones voting I don't think it reflects steam as a platform - just gamers

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

Steam has nothing to do with this, people voted like that.

[–] caut_R@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That‘s a user-vote, no? I can‘t say I‘m surprised that there‘s some headscratchers, I doubt the average user knows what innovative gameplay is supposed to be. They should let people vote as they did, then curate the top 20 of each category into 10 fitting games so those that don‘t match the award category are out, and then let people put their final vote between those 10.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

That‘s a user-vote, no? I can‘t say I‘m surprised that there‘s some headscratchers, I doubt the average user knows what innovative gameplay is supposed to be.

Valve incentivized its users to vote in all categories.

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[–] pacoboyd@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's for the lock pick mini game.

[–] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Which was he first thing I modded out of the game because I hated it.

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[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Winning this award has done so much more damage to Bethesda than I'm sure they could ever have expected.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 15 points 2 years ago

It's completely fan driven so if thats the result, then fans trolled themselves

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Good god all mighty.

[–] set_secret@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

i couldn't even get through the tutorial, space skinned skyrim is a about as innovating as a subscription model for a new app.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Even if it weren't for all of the problems the game has it's hardly innovative. I don't think a Bethesda game has been innovative ever. They didn't even invent the fallout franchise.

[–] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Fallout 3: Find your dad!

Fallout New Vegas: Your quest for revenge will lead you right into the middle of a political struggle which will decide whether this post-apocalypse society will fall to fascism, a corrupt republic that's two bad elections away from fascism, a technofascist, your rule, etc.

Fallout 4: Find your son!

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[–] EvilLootbox@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

It was indeed quite innovative. Was the first game I ever installed on my HDD that refused to run at any acceptable level, ~~without any warning anywhere that it needed to be on SSD or not at all~~.

[–] TheMauveAvenger@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That was Alan Wake 2 for me, except they innovated one step further. I had to reinstall it on my NVME drive because my SATA SSD apparently wasn't fast enough.

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[–] kick_out_the_jams@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's in the system requirements but even games that list an SSD as required there still sometimes work fine on a hard disk.

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[–] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can't believe shadow of doubt didn't win it. I guess it just isn't popular enough.

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